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Post  wolfman on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:58 am

WHO'S BEEN BRUTALIZED THE MOST IN THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION,
THE REDS, THE BLACKS OR THE BROWNS?
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:37 pm

wolfman wrote:WHO'S BEEN BRUTALIZED THE MOST IN THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION,
THE REDS, THE BLACKS OR THE BROWNS?
lol the "reds" and "browns" are the same people. As for "brutalized"?

brutalized: Attack (someone) in a savage and violent way.

I think the answer is obvious, while our African American brothas have endured much by the way of abuse and brutalization from the American government and the American people, Our people, the native peoples of the Americas, have been victims of genocide, slavery, disenfranchisement and many other fancy words describing how we have become third and fourth class citizens on our lands.

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Post  wolfman on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:28 pm

so are you saying that natives have been the most brutalized of all 3?

i don't consider brown and red the same

the redman from north america was completely set apart from the mestizo brown

here in the borderlands we think of them as the same, but i really don't see them being the same
per say, the mayas and the iroquois
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:52 pm

there were no borders back than. same people same "race"

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Post  wolfman on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:56 pm

i don't think so, perro

that's like saying that just because there were no borders between china and india back in the without shoes days
that chinese and india'ns are the same race or people

take a look at an olmec head
then take a look at a dakota head

see the difference?

not only were they built differently
but they also functioned differently
and even grew up differently
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:02 pm

wolfman wrote:i don't think so, perro

that's like saying that just because there were no borders between china and india back in the without shoes days
that chinese and india'ns are the same race or people

take a look at an olmec head
then take a look at a dakota head

see the difference?

not only were they built differently
but they also functioned differently
and even grew up differently
not the same thing, they were separated by the largest mountain range in the world. its more like saying that the Chinese and Japanese and Koreans aren't the same "race". there are differences in the physical characteristics between the Europeans, there still Europeans, they have different cultures but are the same "race"

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Post  wolfman on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:17 pm

even by your own analogy of being the same race
they still developed differently

that's like saying today that mexicans are the same as argentinians
or better yet, that mexicans are the same as chicanos

mexicans are euro-indio
chicanos are euro-everyhting

maybe the same bloodline, but way different in everything else

so it was with the iroquois and mayas, per say
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:26 pm

wolfman wrote:even by your own analogy of being the same race
they still developed differently

that's like saying today that mexicans are the same as argentinians
or better yet, that mexicans are the same as chicanos

mexicans are euro-indio
chicanos are euro-everyhting

maybe the same bloodline, but way different in everything else

so it was with the iroquois and mayas, per say
im not talkiung about cultures tho. before the europeans came and spread there race through the "americas" we were all one "race", one people with many different cultures. Just how now even "mexican americans" or mestizos in america have developed different cultures, so cal chicanos dont act like Chicago or new york chicanos or even some norcal chincos, but if you just want to disregard the native blood that runs thru all of us, than ya the natives by far have been more brutalized.

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Post  wolfman on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:32 pm

well you know is funny how that bloodline and human race story goes

by one biblical belief
we're all descendants from the same mom and pops

by a little bit different apocryphal belief
adam had a first wife, then a second

and then even by another account
fallen angels begat

and if you were to stick with the anthropological story
there's only 3 real races of man on earth

so if your theory is that native americans (redmen)
were all the same bloodline

what can i respond to that?
other than, we're really all related to one another

from one old dog towner to another


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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:35 pm

when you go down to mexico, do you look at all the "paisas" there and not see your people, or do you just see a bunch of "indios"?

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Post  wolfman on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:47 pm

DontxTrip wrote:when you go down to mexico, do you look at all the "paisas" there and not see your people, or do you just see a bunch of "indios"?

i see mexicans and indians and whites
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:51 pm

wolfman wrote:
DontxTrip wrote:when you go down to mexico, do you look at all the "paisas" there and not see your people, or do you just see a bunch of "indios"?

i see mexicans and indians and whites
the Indians are the only true "mexicans". our ancestors raped our other ancestors and the offspring helped to steal the land from them.

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Post  wolfman on Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:06 am

so when you mix an indian and a white, does that still equal white? or indian? which one?
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:08 am

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La raza! Méjicano! Español! Latino! Chicano! Or whatever I call myself, I look the same I feel the same I cry And Sing the same. I am the masses of my people and I refuse to be absorbed. I am Joaquín. The odds are great But my spirit is strong, My faith unbreakable, My blood is pure. I am Aztec prince and Christian Christ. I SHALL ENDURE! I WILL ENDURE!

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:22 am

so your tellin me that the aztec and the mayan are not the same "race" or the mayan and the olmec they had different cultures. They were even separated by something bigger than a border, by time.

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