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Chat Box discussions: Are Roman Catholics True Christians? Part II

Post  Forum Gawd on Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:05 pm

[13:37:54 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : sephardic jews came from spain lawl
[13:37:55 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : but he is a wierdo
[13:38:05 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd plus i adont want him to think we dont take him serious
[13:38:06 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol
[13:38:12 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : fuck spaniards
[13:38:17 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : killed muh ancestors
[13:38:23 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : for no fukkin reason
[13:38:31 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : my lady is pretty much spaniard...so i cant be spaniardk
[13:38:35 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : good morning nikkas
[13:38:38 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : forcin a religion they sucked at practicing on them or kill dem
[13:38:38 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : idiots went around terrorizin ppl for gold
[13:38:46 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : im indegnous ppl K too
[13:38:52 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : how much you want to bet that you have spanish bloood in your veins bullet lawl
[13:39:05 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i do have spanish blood
[13:39:07 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : im mexican lol
[13:39:12 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholocismK
[13:39:16 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : but my jewish blood is supreme.!!!!!
[13:39:19 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i have lots of spanish blood but i stay spain k
[13:39:20 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : everyday
[13:39:31 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : that's why i dont get the hate....how could you hate something that forms apart of you?
[13:39:32 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : lol
[13:39:36 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : makes no sense cuh
[13:39:54 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : cuhz i hate my brown skin
[13:39:59 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i hate it cuz
[13:40:02 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : of the shit they did
[13:40:04 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i hate my brown eyes
[13:40:08 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : LOL....i stopped by hoodup yesterday to see if bullet is still trolling
[13:40:13 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : the only thing good they did was vbringing christianity out here
[13:40:20 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : i hate my caca comes brown
[13:40:21 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : poop skinned mongrels
[13:40:22 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i want to have blue eyes n blond hair,
[13:40:24 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nah nyte im just on there preaching
[13:40:34 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : litteraly preaching
[13:40:43 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : those mufuckas didnt bring christianity...they brought catholocism
[13:40:48 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : indeginous ppl arent no good either
[13:40:50 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : LOL at bray
[13:40:53 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : take em to chuuuch
[13:41:08 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : sick bastard flaying skin nd dancing with it after they busted trains on whoever it was
[13:41:11 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol i grew up catholic k
[13:41:16 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : indigenous people = demon worshipping wacko's
[13:41:16 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : im catholic whats wrong wit dat
[13:41:25 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : christianity nd catholocism is da same shit nyt
[13:41:36 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : negative ^
[13:41:41 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : it is
[13:41:43 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : just a few differences
[13:41:44 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : you go to church in weddings and quinceneras
[13:41:47 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : helll to the no
[13:41:55 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : honorings saints nd the holy mother
[13:41:57 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : it may not be your fav kind of christianity
[13:42:04 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they still believe in jesus
[13:42:05 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : yeah its is catholic=critianity
[13:42:14 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : cristianity
[13:42:18 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd accept tht he rose on the 3rd day
[13:42:20 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : same bible
[13:42:22 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : sorry for the grammar
[13:42:31 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : cray, bluedevil, and anybody that's lurking on here right now. catholocisim and christianity are not the same. i repeate they are NOT the same
[13:42:40 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i had to go to two churches as a kid, one catholic and one regular non catholic one
[13:42:40 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes they are nyte
[13:42:42 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : stop confusing people wif that nonsense bulletK
[13:42:48 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they both accept jesus as they savior
[13:42:49 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : christians just dont believe in the virgin mary
[13:42:59 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : SAME FUKKING BIBLE OLD MAN.!!!!!!
[13:43:01 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : and they was bof the same except the catholic one was more boring
[13:43:13 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : christians do believe in the virgin blue dey just dont honor her like catholics do
[13:43:23 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : they believe in jesus? so what...morons claim to believe in jesus...so do jehovas witness...hell, even moslems say they believe in jesus...it means little
[13:43:36 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : morons lol
[13:43:39 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yeah but catholics believe in the trinity
[13:43:55 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol i disagree wif kyte flya here
[13:44:05 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they believe in the holy spirit nyte mormons muslims nd jehovas witness dont believe thts hes da son of God
[13:44:17 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : just cuhz u dont agree wif their ways doesnt mean they aint christian lol
[13:44:20 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : catholics nd christians do believe hes the son of God
[13:44:29 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd do believe hes God in the flesh
[13:44:54 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : i heard that before that jesus is god
[13:44:59 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i believe that honest catholics will make it to heaven they read the same good book as us
[13:45:01 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholocisicm was formed by the romans and was there way of incorporating their previous relgious beliefs. they merged roman paganism with christianity and it spawned the catholic church
[13:45:02 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : homie is a baptist
[13:45:23 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats reall irrelevant
[13:45:23 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : bullet is just appealing to catholocisim because his mom is catholoic
[13:45:34 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : mormons *
[13:45:39 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes nyte but christians also practice those pagaen stuff too easter valentines day nd christmas all christian holidays too
[13:45:51 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd nyte tht is irrelavent
[13:46:08 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : all used to be pagean shit tht was christianized
[13:46:18 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : kyte flyah thinks my sweet old lil grandma should burn in hell for being a filthy catholic
[13:46:19 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : no cray, you simply do not understand the key differences between biblical based judeo-christianity and catholociscim
[13:46:22 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : christians celebrate it differently though nd catholics do too
[13:46:26 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : there ARE stark differences
[13:46:37 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i disagree wit u here nyte
[13:46:38 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : big time
[13:46:41 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : doesnt matter kyte
[13:46:47 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : prolly da most ignorant shit i ever heard u say oldman
[13:46:48 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : everybody knows theirs a difference
[13:46:50 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholocisicm was formed by the romans and was there way of incorporating their previous relgious beliefs. they merged roman paganism with christianity and it spawned the catholic church
[13:46:54 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : we agree to disagree
[13:46:56 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : that sums it up ^
[13:47:11 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : case closed nikkas
[13:47:19 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : no nyte becuz christians still practice those pagean holidays too u seem to have forgotten
[13:47:31 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : i'm under no authority to say who "burns" in hell or not
[13:47:47 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : catholics nd christians both celebrate christmas easter nd valentines day in the christianized version
[13:47:48 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : don't misconstrue my words
[13:47:56 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : doesnt change the fact that all caltholics are christains and spend their entire time preaching about jesus, n basically the same shit other christians teach. i grew up under both as a kid so i know
[13:48:10 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : The adventist believe they the only one that will be taken to the new jurseleum
[13:48:22 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : i', surprised that you believe what youre saying bullet
[13:48:25 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : very surprised
[13:48:30 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : all im saying is this : i am a firm believer that honest catholics nd christians can make it to heaven as for mormons nd jehovas witness muslims lol yeah u know
[13:48:58 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : mormons=gang of wives
[13:49:04 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : my mom is a devout roman catholic, i am far from being unfamiliar with their beliefs and practices
[13:49:07 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : it would be more accurate or easily accepted for u to say catholics are christains but they are misguided
[13:49:47 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they both believe in the basics to make it to heaven which is : accept jesus blood tht he died on the cross for our sons born of virgin birth nd his resurection
[13:50:04 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : no, cray. they are so far removed as to be counted as a seperate faith all together.
[13:50:04 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes cray tht is more proper but they got the basic concept down
[13:50:22 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : no nyte i disagree
[13:50:53 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : we agree to disagree
[13:50:56 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : in the big picture, people who see jesus as god or the son of god all fall under the christian banner, even if u dont like their ways
[13:50:59 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : anbody tht calls demselve a christian or is wanting to be one (in our case nyte) should call catholics are christian brothers they are christians too..!!!
[13:51:25 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : lol........bullet thinks i'm saying all catholics go to hell lawl...
[13:51:32 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : catholic christian its just a label we are all believers in christ and his holy trinity
[13:51:44 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : except wolf
[13:51:48 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : dat dude has issues
[13:52:00 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : wuuuf is da man
[13:52:03 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholics give divinity to the virgin marry, pray to her, and also venerate man made saints
[13:52:04 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : saying they are not christian, will piss lots of ppl off,,thats the kind of thing that causes religions all around the world to fight n merk each other
[13:52:12 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : hes on that blvd nite ish
[13:52:34 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : they also tatoo her on there bodies
[13:52:45 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : tattoo
[13:52:53 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : and i dont even like catholicism
[13:52:57 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : lol...cray probably believes hitler was a christian, because he claims allegiance to the catholic church in some of his manifestos
[13:53:02 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes nd that is sumtin that i truely disagree with but honest catholics no that jesus is greater nd im pretty sure it is forgiveable by the LORD
[13:53:16 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : no kyte
[13:53:24 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd nyte i disagree in catholicism alot
[13:53:52 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : but id rather have sum1 accept the catholic churchs teachings then sum mormon muslim jehova witness bullshit
[13:53:59 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats like sayin hhs is not a fontana gang cuhz those bastards rep la
[13:54:05 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol!
[13:54:11 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : most catholics aren't christians....period. i don't care what people think when i say that. i understand orthodox BIBLICAL christianity, and know the distinct differences that exists amongst them as a result
[13:54:40 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : if they had a different bible,,maybe
[13:54:54 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : oh yes nyte i understand what ur saying but they are christian they believe in Jesus divinity nd his being the son that is the basic FUNDAMENTALS OF BEING A CHRISTIAN!!!!
[13:55:13 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholics who don't worship the virgin marry/venerate saints and simply believe in jesus christ as the risen lord and savior, are not really even catholics, they're simply christian
[13:55:14 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : ND THEY HAVE THE SAME BIBLE JUST AN EXTRA 5 BOOKS FULL OF POEMS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT NO DIFFERENCE
[13:55:44 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholics who give divinity to the virgin and or saints, are NOT christian, they are orthodox roman catholics
[13:56:31 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : SAME BIBLE SAME JESUS SAME SCRIPTURES SAME BELIEFS !!! just a few little misconceptions on the saints nd virgin!! theyd ont pray to them remember nyte they ask them to pray for them therefore aknowledging tht jesus is GREATER THEN THEM.!!!!!!!!!
[13:56:38 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats why religion annoys me
[13:56:42 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : the roman catholic church incorporated several non-canonical books into the bible, the believe in several non-biblical beliefs such as purgatory, praying for the dead, and saint hood
[13:56:48 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : NONE of which are biblical
[13:57:02 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : so again, nobody can tell me otherwise because the difference is like day and night
[13:57:10 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : i hate religion
[13:57:11 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : NYTE CALL THEM CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC ORTHODOX CATHOLIC WUTEVER THEY ARE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST ND HIS TEACHINGS ND THATS ALL THT MATTERS.!!!!!!!!!
[13:57:29 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life :
[13:57:30 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats wheter our disagreement lies\
[13:57:41 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : the roman catholic church incorporated several non-canonical books into the bible, the believe in several non-biblical beliefs such as purgatory, praying for the dead, and saint hood
[13:57:43 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : ^
[13:57:50 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : your pointing out where they go wrong, and their differences...
[13:58:00 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : irrelevant to me
[13:58:30 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : who cares.!!!!!!! they have differnces nyte we understand that already u ignorant old fart.!!! THEY STILL BELIEVE IN JESUS BEING THE LORD ND HIS BLOOD WASHING AWAY OUR SINS.!!!!!!!!!!
[13:58:56 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder :
[13:59:05 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol at bluedevil staying quiet
[13:59:06 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol
[13:59:23 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : did you ever watch walter vieth's lecture on this topic, bullet? i thought i gave you a link.
[14:00:02 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes i saw it
[14:00:15 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd i understand the differences i always have before tht video
[14:00:25 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : but u seem to not understand what im saying
[14:00:31 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they believe in jesus
[14:00:34 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : his holiness
[14:00:39 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd how he is the son of god
[14:00:52 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : tht is the basic fundamentals of christianity
[14:00:56 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they are our brothers too
[14:01:02 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : COT DANM IT.!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:01:16 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[14:01:17 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol not kytes brothers
[14:01:21 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : \i still have it nyte
[14:01:46 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i was watching it again a couple days ago
[14:01:51 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i understand
[14:01:59 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : things like the pope, whom they believe is the ordained representative of God on earth, the vatican, rome has become their "holy land" and the Vatican their house of God, it's totally distinct and utterly opposed to what the bible actually teaches. how anyone could say otherwise is beyond me
[14:02:04 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : thts not what im saying i am aware of those pagean symbols
[14:02:45 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : just cuhz they're wrong dont mean they dont celieve in christ lol
[14:02:47 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : how is it against the bible nyte.?? i dont know about the vatican being the holy land but jesus named the first pope himself
[14:02:51 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : EatYourWheaties909 : your pointing out where they go wrong, and their differences... [13:58:00] @ EatYourWheaties909 : irrelevant to me ------- how is it irrelevant when i'm merely giving you reasons WHY they are not one and the same? you claim they are, so how else can i demonstrate that they are not?
[14:02:53 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : just cuhz they added a bunch of other crap
[14:03:23 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : one in the same of what kyte?
[14:03:26 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : first fisherman of people (pope) PETER
[14:03:41 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : theirs hundreds of different christian sects
[14:03:51 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : he gave him that power to be the fisherman of his people they just later on dubbed the name pope
[14:03:54 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : people have all kinds of different ways of worship
[14:03:58 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ EatYourWheaties909 : just cuhz they're wrong dont mean they dont celieve in christ lol-------cray, it's not that simple. that's my point. ANYBODY can say they believe in "christ" but if this christ does not lineup with the historical/biblical christ, then their appeal to the figure of jesus christ is in vein
[14:04:29 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : there are many false christs
[14:04:33 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol nyte they do believe in the same christ as us lol its not sum black guy they wirshiping
[14:04:37 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : wut u mean lineup with the biblical christ? so they worship a different one?
[14:04:43 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes there are false christs but not in catholicsm
[14:04:53 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol at nyte not even making sense
[14:05:17 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : thts mormons nd jehova witnesses muslims not catholics nyte!!
[14:05:45 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lineup wit biblical christ.?? its the same one not sum other one with spikey hair lol!!!!!!
[14:06:07 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : hmmmm...ok
[14:06:14 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : looks like i need to break this down
[14:06:20 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : omg
[14:06:24 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : so which christian denominations are legit christians?
[14:06:28 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : so ur saying they believe in another christ
[14:06:39 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : is that wut ur saying.??
[14:06:53 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : bullet, you're the one that's not making any sense here, how could you not see that? you're contradicting yourself in every other posts
[14:06:56 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : this is prolly the most bogus arguement we have ever had nyte
[14:07:04 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : how nyte.??
[14:07:12 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they believe in the same jesus.!~
[14:07:14 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : the roman catholic church teaches that it is the only source of salvation for sinners. the Bible teaches the jesus christ is the only Savior
[14:07:24 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : same on nd ur saying they believe a different one
[14:07:54 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : you're only pointing our chatholic flaws
[14:08:09 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes nyte i understand that u ask them for forgiveness but u seem to also forget that in the bible jesus told peter that he will decide who he forgives nd who he wont forgive
[14:08:10 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : you're not proving that they dont follow christ as their savior
[14:08:23 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol at our
[14:08:23 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes cray thts wut im trying to say
[14:08:36 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholics are taught that only the catholic church canforgive sins. the Bible teaches that forgiveness comes directly from God through faith in jesus Christ, not through church membership or sacraments.
[14:09:05 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes nyte but they have the bible to back that misconception up they just took it to extreme
[14:09:14 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : look up tht verse nyte
[14:09:19 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : hold up ill look it up
[14:09:22 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : flaws? these ARENT flaws, they are clear distinctions between both faiths
[14:09:57 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : even distinctions wont change the fact that them suckers believe in christ
[14:10:12 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : flaws, distinctions, differences
[14:10:14 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : dont matter
[14:10:19 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : "On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, ‘Peace be with you.’ When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ John 20:19-23
[14:10:45 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : even if every single caltholic burns in hell for praying to virgin mary, they still christians. maybe bad christians..
[14:10:57 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : "The Second Vatican Council's Decree on Ecumenism explains: 'For it is through Christ's Catholic Church alone, which is the universal help toward salvation, that the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained.'" Pg. 215, #816
[14:11:00 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : ^
[14:11:18 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : i do believe forgiveness comes directly from God nyte but this verse is what makes catholics believe they have the power to forgive which they do but some people get the misconception tht only they can forgive which is completely false
[14:11:27 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i never said anything about them all being one in the same, as christianity is extremey diverse with probably thousands of ways of worship ppl do in the world
[14:11:31 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nyte u ignored my verse
[14:12:00 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : the bible teaches that salvation is attained through faith in jesus christ himself. catholics say that the catholic church itself is the means of salvation
[14:12:35 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd i doubt they will burn we are no one to judge they never rejected christ the bible teaches tht there is only one unforgivable sin NYTE TO NOT REJECT THE SPIRIT WHICH CATHOLICS HAVE NOT DONE>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:13:12 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : so anytime any christian goes against wut the bible says, they are not christian//i guess none are christian then
[14:13:16 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : that is not forgiveable nd catholics have not rejected the spirit there worship of mary will be forgiven
[14:13:41 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : and how is that verse relevant to your assertion that all cathololics are christian?
[14:13:49 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : there are more things that are not written in the bible nyte nd we believe in them sum things were just not added on
[14:14:36 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ EatYourWheaties909 : i never said anything about them all being one in the same, as christianity is extremey diverse with probably thousands of ways of worship ppl do in the world ------------perhaps many ways according to man or the world, but not according to the bible
[14:14:39 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nyte its relevant cuz that is why they say the can forgive sins christ told them they could u dummy they have biblical stuff to back up alot of there doctrines
[14:14:49 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : jesus didn't teach in a plurality of ways to salvation
[14:14:55 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol..again kyte
[14:15:02 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats super irrelevant
[14:15:03 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : he taught that HE was the only way to attain salvation
[14:15:16 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : catholics don't necessarily believe in that
[14:15:54 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : omg nyte
[14:16:03 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : this arguement is bogus
[14:16:08 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : fukk dis shit!!!!!
[14:16:09 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats critiquing other peoples ways of worship. not disproving that they dont believe in christ
[14:16:19 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : im tired of debating i got a headache.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:16:47 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : bullet has been misconstruing my comments since we began. i never said all catholics are the same, and i clearly said that there ARE catholics out there who don't ascribe to the divinity of the virgin mary or saints, and simply believe in salvation through christ alone. but, again, those to me, are simply christians
[14:16:53 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they believe in christ they have differnces yes but they will in my eyes make it to heaven!!!!!! they have accepted christ as their saviour.!!!!!!!!
[14:16:54 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : just cuhz they may do it wrong, or differently..dont change that they is christians lawlz...even if theyre "bad christians"
[14:17:26 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : I NEVER SAID "ALL CATHOLICS GO TO HELL" i never said "YOUR OLD CATHOLIC GRANNY IS BURNING IN HELL"...those were the words of somebody else, not mine
[14:17:42 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : we are bad christians ourselves so who are we rto judge them for honoring christ mother
[14:17:48 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : as far as getting into heaven and all that. lawlz...cmon now ppl
[14:18:05 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i was joking when i said that bout granny
[14:18:08 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lawlz
[14:18:11 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol at old catholic granny
[14:18:24 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol at her following judaism
[14:18:28 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : my contention is that roman catholocism in general, is not akin to orthodox biblical judeo-christianity. and that arguement is justified by what i've already posted.
[14:18:34 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nd accepting christ at the end
[14:18:53 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : cray wants to claim my contentions are irrelevant, but he can't seem to refute what i've already mentioned otherwise.
[14:18:55 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : u know wut nyte
[14:19:02 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol kyte
[14:19:04 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : \IM KOSHER K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:19:09 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i dont need to refute it
[14:19:41 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : if it aint a jew its not for u
[14:19:54 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : my argument is simple. catholics believe in christ. period...doesnt matter if they believe in a bunch of other nonsense that u and i may think is wrong or misquided, not of the bible etc
[14:20:14 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : thats the last ill say on it.
[14:20:22 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : cray we won this arguement just let it go lol
[14:20:24 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : we aint gunna change each others minds
[14:20:29 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lets change the subject
[14:20:41 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : so how bout dem imaginary cities
[14:20:51 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol
[14:21:13 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : just checkin if hes here
[14:21:21 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol
[14:21:43 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol at southsiderifa thinkin tepa12 was in fontana
[14:21:50 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : 13*
[14:21:51 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ WheyShakePowder : we are bad christians ourselves so who are we rto judge them for honoring christ mother <------------that's the issue here. jesus nor any of the apostles commanded us to "honor" the virgin mary. she is a symbol of faith, a woman of valor, but that's as far as it should go. mary was a sinner just like any of us. she wasn't exempt from sin, nor was she designated to be a mediator between us and god. that's jesus christ title
[14:21:56 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : los zetas banging in rialto
[14:22:22 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : and that is precisely what catholics subcribe too
[14:22:27 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : ok nyte debate is over
[14:22:44 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : less talk about dem delmar heights in lil africa rubidoux
[14:23:06 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : i can go on for days providing irrefutable biblical evidence on why they are not one and the same, but i can already see that it won't amount to anything, so i don't think i'll bother with that.
[14:23:32 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes nyte
[14:23:35 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : u cant change our minds
[14:23:36 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : Lil Shit Stain from NSfontana dogpound cali garden cripjk e/s sb to date we run dallas texas fuck nawk sfk alck
[14:23:40 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : were not catholic anyways
[14:23:53 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol at theheatsux being vthls here
[14:24:06 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : he dead
[14:24:09 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lets just convert to judaism
[14:24:12 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : inactive
[14:24:36 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : theheatsux went netbanging on youtube again
[14:24:50 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : oh
[14:24:56 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : he came back eh
[14:25:10 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ WheyShakePowder : they believe in christ they have differnces yes but they will in my eyes make it to heaven!!!!!! they have accepted christ as their saviour.!!!!!!!! <------ and so do mormons, preterists, and many other non-christian belief systems.
[14:25:45 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : omg nyte yeah mormons nd jehovas accepted him but they dont believe in the trinity they are not even relevant nyte
[14:25:58 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : catholics nd christians do believe in trinity
[14:26:27 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : mormons nd jehovas witness are wrong nd irelevant they changed huge amounts of words nd mormons even have they own book
[14:26:32 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : they are irrelevant
[14:26:36 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : merk all caltholics
[14:26:38 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : WAY IRELAVANT
[14:27:20 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : distinctions need to be made, bullet. i've already made them, and i agree that anybody who places their faith in jesus christ alone, and follows His teachings, have attained salvation, that includes any "Catholic" as well, but to generalize and say that anybody who accepts jesus has attained salvation, in spite of other questionable doctrines regarding salvation they may ascribe to, is just well, ignorant
[14:27:29 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i cant wait to see bullet netbang on sf with his new username
[14:27:37 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol
[14:27:59 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol im finna make a fake youtube account pretending to be from sf nd start youtube trolling more
[14:28:19 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol this guy
[14:28:49 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : big troll plans on the hariozon
[14:29:00 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : if they are following the jesus of history, i.e. the biblical figure of jesus christ, then there is no dispute on my behalf. but when they also partake in practices like worshipping idols, etc..then that is where the lines need to be drawn
[14:29:38 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : comprenden?
[14:29:52 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : no give upjk kyte lol
[14:29:58 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : dull boi ^
[14:30:09 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : cant change each others minds
[14:30:39 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : cray, you've stated yourself that you don't know much regarding "relgion", so i can understand your ignorance, but not bullet
[14:30:48 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : i'm not trying to change anybodies mind
[14:30:50 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lol
[14:31:09 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : i provide the evidence, you can interpret that how you'd like
[14:31:10 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : yeah but the stuff your talking about is pretty basic stuff that most know about
[14:31:11 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : up to you
[14:31:32 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : including myself having grown up both caltholic and non catholic christian churches
[14:31:43 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : not as basic as you make it to be cray, there are principles which you don't seem to understand
[14:32:14 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : no i understand the distinctions pretty clearly
[14:32:38 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : we just have a disagreement on how to label a group
[14:33:33 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : superficial differences is not what i'm arguing against here, it's rudimentary theological principles
[14:34:12 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : just like i see different sects of jews, mooslims. i see different sects of christians,,,im more liberal about labeling groups...because i am not apart of any of them.....
[14:34:28 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ EatYourWheaties909 : no i understand the distinctions pretty clearly <------ somehow, i have a hard time believing that. if you truly understood, then there is no way you would claim that they are one and the same
[14:34:51 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : one in the same isnt exactly how id put it
[14:35:15 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : because to be christianity is pretty diverse in worhship practices
[14:35:21 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : me*
[14:35:53 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : in fact, i dont see christianity as one big "the same" catagory
[14:36:51 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : to me, you're just pointing out how u think they go wrong
[14:36:51 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ EatYourWheaties909 : we just have a disagreement on how to label a group <------------ it was never about categorizing "groups", it was about major and crucial theological differences. a faith lives and dies by theology
[14:37:23 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : no. thats the argument u made it into
[14:37:44 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : to me its about them being labeled christians since they think he god
[14:37:53 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : nothing more
[14:38:28 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : lol
[14:38:43 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : to say they have distinct differences from others.....everyone knows
[14:39:26 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : 9] @ WholeGrains4Life : cray, you've stated yourself that you don't know much regarding "relgion", so i can understand your ignorance, but not bullet..... <<< Y u say not me.??
[14:39:33 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ EatYourWheaties909 : in fact, i dont see christianity as one big "the same" catagory <------------ according to jesus himself, it is. so much so that he describes the "chruch" as his bride, or his body. BIBLICAL christianity is one and the same. denominations, and artificially constructed categories are not. there should not be several different types of "christianity ", at least not according to the new testament
[14:39:39 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : besides, in my caltholic classes they never taught us about saints or virgin mary..
[14:40:38 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : because bullet, you've made it apparent to me that you posses a good amount of knowledge concerning these matters. cray hasn't, which is why i made that statement
[14:40:45 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : ok kyte, i get that..but that doesnt change the fact that these didferent denominations exist in real life, or ud have to argue that none are christians
[14:42:16 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : oh, of course they exist. the "church", in it's current state, is literally in shambles. the seperations, the denominations, etc. have led to heretics, and unbiblical doctrines
[14:43:08 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : but thats a totally different subject
[14:43:27 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yeah i have all this knowledge my i dont let my knowledge cause foolishness
[14:43:53 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : im sure u can go on for days explaining all the flaws and whats gone wrong in each denomination
[14:44:04 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : but its besides the point
[14:44:13 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : i gotta go tho
[14:44:24 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : talk to u batos late ron
[14:44:26 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : catholics are christians like us nd we can argue about dat for days arguements like this happened in the bible shit even peter at first didnt wanna let gentiles become christians without following jewish practices
[14:44:27 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : on*
[14:44:37 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : mork^
[14:44:40 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : the "body of christ", as a collective, does not resemble the one that jesus spoke of. there ARE churches out there, many of them which are biblically sound and teach directly from the bible, but there are also many that have greatly defected from sound biblical principal
[14:44:44 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : u morkin it cray
[14:45:00 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : “You don’t make up for your sins in church. You do it in the streets. You do it at home. The rest is bullshit and you know it.” Martin Scorsese
[14:45:15 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lawl
[14:45:22 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : got some shit to take care of bloodz
[14:45:25 02/09/12] @ EatYourWheaties909 : lates
[14:46:13 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ WheyShakePowder : catholics are christians like us <------- and yet you've utterly FAILED to provide a definitive proof of this. ALL catholics are christian? or just some?
[14:46:46 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : @ WheyShakePowder : yeah i have all this knowledge my i dont let my knowledge cause foolishness <----------how is this discussion foolishness?
[14:47:12 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : yes nyte i understand that yes some actualy more then just some the majority there are alot of dumb catholics out there dat acttually pray to saints when ur only supposed to ask dem to speak to God for u
[14:47:41 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : nyte i said cuz i dont let my knowledge get to me speakin on ppl like underdog not this discussion
[14:49:57 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : ..
[14:50:14 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : this discussion doesn't deal with trivial subjects, it leads directly into matters of theology and doctrine, which according to the apostel paul is absolutely ESSENTIAL. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says, "but test everything, hold fast what is good."
[14:50:20 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : im lurking lol
[14:50:41 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : test everything, whether if it is from god or not. that is the command
[14:50:52 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : austin 3:16 was my favorite
[14:51:11 02/09/12] @ WholeGrains4Life : and roman catholic precepts simply do not line-up with God when tested.
[14:51:32 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : we should continue on this debate nyte
[14:51:40 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : dont clear it im gunna put it up on the section
[14:51:51 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : hopefully somebody continues it
[14:52:02 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : wuuf will
[14:52:09 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : these are the debates i enjoy having wit u when im not bored postin muh sexy pics
[14:52:24 02/09/12] BLUEDEVIL : lol^^^^
[14:52:39 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : wtf[14:52:45 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder : u cleared most of it.!!!!!!!
[14:52:55 02/09/12] @ WheyShakePowder :
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Re: Chat Box discussions: Are Roman Catholics True Christians? Part II

Post  American Zombie on Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:29 pm

For the record, I wasn't arguing about who was a "true christian" and who isn't.

I was arguing it from an objective point of view, not as a christian trying to discern who is a "true" christian.

My argument is pretty simple and basic. Catholics are usually labeled Christian simply because they believe in Christ...

I think Nyte's argument was more from a biblical or Christian perspective, as he pointed out the differences they have and all that.
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