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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:36 pm

BY DAVID AXE12.26.1212:00 PM

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The U.S. military has begun a staged, five-year process that will see each of its three main stealth warplane types deployed to bases near China. When the deployments are complete in 2017, Air Force F-22s and B-2s and Marine Corps F-35s could all be within striking range of America’s biggest economic rival at the same time. With Beijing now testing its own radar-evading jet fighters — two different models, to be exact — the clock is counting down to a stealth warplane showdown over the Western Pacific.

The gradual creation of the U.S. stealth strike force is an extension of the Pentagon’s much-touted “strategic pivot” to the Pacific region, and echoes the much faster formation, earlier this year, of a similar (but only partially stealthy) aerial armada in the Persian Gulf. That team of F-22s, non-stealthy F-15s and specialized “Bacon” radio-translator planes was clearly meant to deter a belligerent Iran, although the Pentagon denied it.

The announcements of new Pacific deployments of F-22s, F-35s and B-2s have come like a drumbeat in recent weeks. Early last month, 8th Air Force commander Maj. Gen. Stephen Wilson, who controls the Air Force’s 20-strong B-2 fleet normally based in Missouri, said “small numbers” of his multi-billion-dollar batwing bombers would begin rotating into the Pacific and other regions starting next year. The rotations would last “for a few weeks, a couple of times a year,” Wilson told Air Force magazine.

For the B-2s, which are being heavily upgraded with new radars and communications, the planned deployments represent a return to form. Beginning in the early 2000s, B-2s frequently deployed to Andersen Air Force Base in Guam, occasionally accompanied by stealthy F-22s. But the Pacific rotations were tough on the tiny B-2 force. In 2008 one of the bombers crashed and burned at Andersen; two years later another B-2 suffered a serious engine fire at the remote island base that nearly destroyed the plane.

The Air Force suppressed news of the second incident and quietly pulled the B-2s from the Pacific front line, replacing them with older B-52s. After a period of rest, the stealth bomber fleet is now ready to get back into the habit of operating overseas. “We’re going to put them into the ‘new normal,’” Wilson said.

F-22s, normally based in Florida, Virginia, Alaska and Hawaii, are already regular visitors to Andersen and, more frequently, the Pentagon’s Kadena mega-base in Japan’s Okinawa prefecture. But problems with the pricey, high-flying jet’s oxygen systems resulted in crippling flight restrictions for much of this year. The Air Force believes it has finally figured out how to minimize the choking risk to its (occasionally mutinous) stealth pilots. And in a speech at the National Press Club last week, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said there would be “new deployments of F-22s … to Japan.”

In the same speech, Panetta announced the first planned overseas basing of the still-in-development F-35. The Defense Department is “laying the groundwork” for F-35s to deploy to Iwakuni, Japan, in 2017, Panetta said. Though he did not specify, it’s likely Panetta was referring to the Marines’ vertical-landing F-35B version of the troubled, delayed stealth attack jet, as the B version will be the first of three F-35 models to be cleared for combat — and since Iwakuni traditionally hosts Marine fighters.

To be fair, the B-2s, F-22s and F-35s aren’t expected to fight alone. Besides the existing Pacific force structure of F-15s, F-16s, A-10s and other warplanes, drones and support aircraft, the Pentagon is planning on sending in the Navy’s new P-8 patrol plane and, eventually, the Air Force’s still-unbuilt KC-46 tanker.

Still, it’s possible that all three radar-evading planes could be flying together over the blue waters of the Pacific as early as five years from now. By that time China might have built and deployed combat-ready versions of its own J-20 and J-31 stealth fighters. That doesn’t mean the two aerial armadas will be fighting each other, of course. Conventional war with China is, and will likely remain, unnecessary and unlikely.

For both sides the planned stealth strike forces are all about showing off, and impressing your rival so much that actually fighting him seems unthinkable. And that’s a good thing.

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Post  American Zombie on Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:18 pm

[quote="DontxTrip"]BY DAVID AXE12.26.1212:00 PM

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/12/pentagon-preps-stealth-force/

The U.S. military has begun a staged, five-year process that will see each of its three main stealth warplane types deployed to bases near China. When the deployments are complete in 2017, Air Force F-22s and B-2s and Marine Corps F-35s could all be within striking range of America’s biggest economic rival at the same time

wow government's are stupid.
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Post  wolfman on Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:59 am

back in the day, when the u.s. military was contemplating using nukes on china to end the korean war., the chinese said., you can kill a million of us a day, but it will still take you over 3 years to kill us all off., so i wonder if the do-goody-feel-good u.s. populace of 2017 would stomach killing off millions of chinese souls per day in a war (?) 'cause that's what it would take to defeat a giant!
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:05 am

you just gotta hit Beijing. kyte mentioned somethign bout china a while ago, saying how they could make an army of millions. they may have the population but i doubt how effective they could be. people assume that all chinese are united but there not. it is a communist country, im pretty sure alot of them would like to end that

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Post  SFxSTONER on Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:15 am

Russian subs have been cruising along our coast for a few years now, so I was wondering how long it would be before something like this kicks off. But the reality is, even if we were physically able to do this, we're too fucking PC to go through with it. Or if we did, it would be after China nuked one of our cities first.
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Post  wolfman on Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:49 pm

the u.s, is never gonna prep up no strike force to counter china., it just ain't gonna do that, period!

it can dupe you into believing that old Red Scare, but lo' and behold the U.S. has been in bed with Red China ever since Nixon went to visit

The Great American FACTORY is in China

Don't you know?
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Post  American Zombie on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:01 pm

I think the main reason the US won't have a full blown war with China is for the same reason the US didn't have a full blown war with the Soviets. Nuclear weapons change how two super powers go at it. No matter what, China doesn't want to be nuked and neither does the US. So what we have is proxy wars all over the place. The US government is drunk on power and uses its military might to expand its imperial influence all over the globe. China is seen as a threat as their economy grows and they begin to buy up natural resources. This is why the US jumps in real quick to invade or over throw regimes in all these different countries, to be sure they install puppet leaders that will do what "US interests" dictate (note, "US interests usually means a select government privileged corporations, NOT the general populations interest).
Militarily I don't see China posing a threat, aside from the nukes, a country that lived under a one child policy for so long doesn't sound like one that's willing to fight and lose lives. But on the other hand, they have the economic advantage. The US going to war with China is kind of silly...The US can't go to war with anyone or run its welfare state without borrowing from China. So when the US goes to war with China, will they borrow money from China to do it?
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:31 pm

the only way we will ever go to war with china is if the us asissts in a Chinese rebellion

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Post  American Zombie on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:39 pm

DontxTrip wrote:the only way we will ever go to war with china is if the us asissts in a Chinese rebellion


Yeah, sending weapons and stuff to the rebels.


and then, when they start losing too much, abandon them and hear about how badly they got slaughtered. lol
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