Can a man be Liberal and Christian at the same time?

Tumble Town wrote:I'd say the greater question is whether or not he would be in favor of the use of coercion to redistribute wealth or was he in favor of charity and voluntary trade.

Excellent point!

one can start out as a dormant or dogmatic christian catholic, per say, and then move onto the reformed protestant and modern day evangelical ranks, and one can fall in line with either arminianism, calvinism, universalist theology to name but the most prominent views of non-catholic western christianity, but all that is nothing but an old established way of looking at what christianity is., i belive that yes, a christian can be a true liberal in the sense that one has free choice, and one has to experience God for himself/herself, and in the sense that it is by grace and not by works that one is redeemed to the Glory of God., but having said that, having free will, free choice, does not mean that whatever choice you make would be the right one for edifying your soul., if you were not a liberal, then you would have no choice in mind., it is the fact that you are free to think and chose that makes one a liberal, and by defacto a rebel against God., but count it as a blessing, for it is by free liberal choice that one comes to understand the sin we're in., therefore it is not being a liberal that keeps us from being a christian, but sin is the result of our free choices made through liberalism., how else would we come to know and receive grace?

You fools left me hanging on this topic., ran away to watch a ball game or something to dull your spiritual mind.

Yehoshua was a flat out SOCIALIST...kicking over the money lenders tables in the temple, 'it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven', 'the only riches you will take to heaven are those that you give away'...

Jesus felt the Bern 2000 years ago...

So Jesus believed in using the initiation of force and violence to extract wealth from one group of people to give to another group of people? Did he believe in throwing people behind bars if they do not comply with his socialist ideas and shoot them if they resist?

American Zombie wrote:So Jesus believed in using the initiation of force and violence to extract wealth from one group of people to give to another group of people? Did he believe in throwing people behind bars if they do not comply with his socialist ideas and shoot them if they resist?

Where did I say that? democratic socialism is nothing to do with force and violence and throwing people in jail...if I'd said Jesus was a Maoist or a Stalinist I'd take your point... this is why I try and get my terms of reference straight so I'm not misunderstood...

What happens when you don't pay your taxes under democratic socialism?

American Zombie wrote:
What happens when you don't pay your taxes under democratic socialism?

Same thing that happens when you don't pay your taxes now...

chang wrote:

American Zombie wrote:
What happens when you don't pay your taxes under democratic socialism?

Same thing that happens when you don't pay your taxes now...

Exactly.

Give Ceasar his share - In a worldy sense., And give The Lord the "Spiritual dues'., Money is nothing but a passing "fad" ., But the Inner Man, the Inner Man belongs to the Almighty!!! AMEN !!!!