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Post  American Zombie on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:39 pm

I talked to a few people here about the Free State Project. Thought these comments by a local politician was funny. Of course I ain't going to New Hampshire anytime soon. Too cold, and its like 95% white. Lol. But I kind of like what they're doing.


In the opinion of this Democrat, Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today. There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. In this country you can move anywhere you choose and they have that same right. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave. One way is to pass measures that will restrict the “freedoms” that they think they will find here. Another is to shine the bright light of publicity on who they are and why they are coming. They can not put their ideology into our statutes unless we elect them in great enough numbers to take over our General Court. We have already seen them try during the last session of the General Court. Our last election was a repudiation of their extremism.

here in Keene we had a couple show up on Central Square to take part in our weekly Saturday morning peace demonstration. In the course of the conversation they allowed that they were Free Staters considering moving to Keene. The folks on the Square told them in no uncertain terms not to do that because Free Staters are not welcome here. Cheshire County is a welcoming community but not to those whose stated goal is to move in enough ideologues to steal our state, and our way of life.

Ultimately the Free Staters want NH to be a platform state for them to export their views to the rest of the country. Some of these folks dress up pretty well, but if you check their website you will find that they are really wolves in sheep’s clothing. The best strategy from my perspective is to keep shining a light on their views and activities and make it very plain that NH is not up for sale to any ideology. To ignore these people and hope they go away is a recipe for disaster.
http://freekeene.com/2012/12/25/free-staters-are-the-single-biggest-threat-the-state-is-facing-today-state-rep-cynthia-chase/
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Post  American Zombie on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:41 pm

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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:40 am

What is the point of these people? I'm confused. I've never heard of this before.

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Post  American Zombie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:38 am

jennierock wrote:What is the point of these people? I'm confused. I've never heard of this before.

The Free State Project is a movement started by "liberty minded" people that decided to choose the state of New Hampshire as a place where as many liberty minded or pro freedom people could move to so that they can eventually become a majority within the state, and be able to effect meaningful change on a state level. Since they're the extreme minority in every state, the idea is to have everyone meet up in one place and create the free society.
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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:32 am

That sounds amazing. I still think a working man's evolution is coming. This is thousands of years in the making.

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:25 pm

theres "working mans" revolutions all the time. they are usually started by socialists... ie the soviet union. lol matter of fact alot if not all revolutions are started by or for the "average joe"

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:28 pm

the fact of the matter is that eventually there will be either a total collapse or a revolution in this country, when and why are the questions. no empire lasts forever.

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Post  American Zombie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:29 pm

LOl. I was about to post "Jennie, what are you, a cotdamn Marxist?"
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:31 pm

RC wrote:LOl. I was about to post "Jennie, what are you, a cotdamn Marxist?"
hahahaha i read "working mans revolution" and the hammer and sickle popped into my had. that and "the peoples republic of china" too lol

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Post  American Zombie on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:40 pm

lol. But yea, the American Empire will collapse.. and best case scenario, different parts of the country will break apart and some regions will be freer than others.

I just think of the trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities for medicare and Social security...Somethings going to crack eventually and people will be pissed.
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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:46 am

When I say it, I mean on a world wide level. Things are changing and for the better. You guys are thinking on a smaller scale. It won't just be America, the world dynamic is going to change. It has nothing not do with Marxism. The likes of people who attend the Bohemain Grove are becoming scared. The more laws they create to control, the more evidence we have that they fear the change.
On another note, NH is the first female run state. I just read an article on it today. More change... a female run world is coming!

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:52 am

jennierock wrote:When I say it, I mean on a world wide level. Things are changing and for the better. You guys are thinking on a smaller scale. It won't just be America, the world dynamic is going to change. It has nothing not do with Marxism. The likes of people who attend the Bohemain Grove are becoming scared. The more laws they create to control, the more evidence we have that they fear the change.
On another note, NH is the first female run state. I just read an article on it today. More change... a female run world is coming!
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Post  American Zombie on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:28 am

jennierock wrote:When I say it, I mean on a world wide level. Things are changing and for the better. You guys are thinking on a smaller scale. It won't just be America, the world dynamic is going to change. It has nothing not do with Marxism. The likes of people who attend the Bohemain Grove are becoming scared. The more laws they create to control, the more evidence we have that they fear the change.
On another note, NH is the first female run state. I just read an article on it today. More change... a female run world is coming!

Which why I am a short term pessimist and long term optimist.
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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:33 am

I've never heard anyone say that before. What negatives do you see coming? Do the positives happen because of so much negative.
Sounds sort of like a ying and yang thing. A balancing of the universe.


What is so B.S.? Women are taking over the world. A female revolution is coming. Yes, I am a big time feminist. And no don't hold fast to those stereotypes.

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Post  American Zombie on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:49 am

jennierock wrote:I've never heard anyone say that before. What negatives do you see coming? Do the positives happen because of so much negative.
Sounds sort of like a ying and yang thing. A balancing of the universe.


What is so B.S.? Women are taking over the world. A female revolution is coming. Yes, I am a big time feminist. And no don't hold fast to those stereotypes.

Its kind of like a drug addict that needs to hit rock bottom before he decides to make a serious change.lol

I think civilization is sort of the same. Bad stuff happens followed by a new era of better stuff and it repeats through time.

The last century of social democracy will eventually come to an end. Centuries later people will study history and wonder how people in this century were so stupid.
In the US especially, you can see the signs everyday that things are declining. The US has all the classic signs of imperial decline. Out with the old, in with the NEW Arrow
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:56 am

jennierock wrote:I've never heard anyone say that before. What negatives do you see coming? Do the positives happen because of so much negative.
Sounds sort of like a ying and yang thing. A balancing of the universe.


What is so B.S.? Women are taking over the world. A female revolution is coming. Yes, I am a big time feminist. And no don't hold fast to those stereotypes.
im all for woans rights but not a fan of feminism, people throw that around not knowing. feminism is isolationist...but all that woman takin over the world thing, is good and all, but just isnt true...lol

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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:00 am

I totally disagree with that. Being a feminist is about being strong and independent. It is about not needed a man, but rather wanting one. It is about being seen as an equal person and not a less than. It is simple math. More females are being born everyday. If I could figure out how to send you the article I'm reading, I would.

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:06 am

jennierock wrote:I totally disagree with that. Being a feminist is about being strong and independent. It is about not needed a man, but rather wanting one. It is about being seen as an equal person and not a less than. It is simple math. More females are being born everyday. If I could figure out how to send you the article I'm reading, I would.
femenism is a pretty expansive term. the more hardcore seems to be the prevalent one tho. and as for "simple math" theres pretty much eqaul amounts of men and woman being born everyday. if thats what you meant.

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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:09 am

Well my definition is mine. BBC just published a report in November stating that female births are on the rise.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/sashagalbraith/2012/03/29/is-it-the-end-of-men-again/

Totally of thread topic guys. Sorry I distracted us!

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:15 am

jennierock wrote:Well my definition is mine. BBC just published a report in November stating that female births are on the rise.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/sashagalbraith/2012/03/29/is-it-the-end-of-men-again/

Totally of thread topic guys. Sorry I distracted us!
thats like saying my definition of the civil rights movement is mine. there is a set definition of feminism, its an actual thing not just an idea. if your ideals dont fit in it than your not a feminist, you can be for women's equality and all that without being one. and if there are more females being born it jsut means that there are more being born than before, not than more males. the world ratio is still very slightly male. http://www.indexmundi.com/world/demographics_profile.html

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Post  American Zombie on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:19 am

More women means that each mans market value goes up when it comes to hooking up. cheers banana-fuck-5 humpdeehump
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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:21 am

RC wrote:More women means that each mans market value goes up when it comes to hooking up. cheers banana-fuck-5 humpdeehump
heard it sucks to live in china, way more dudes over there, on account of them killing female babies at birth....guess they didnt count on a giant sausage party lol

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Post  Guest on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:28 am

Feminism by defintion is a male created definition. Third wave feminist will tell you that. Feminism is an ever changing, ever evolving ideal. And people have their own definitions of civil rights, that's why our country is having a huge debate about gay marriage right now. If ideals do not change with time, experience and education, then there would be no growth and ideas would never evoloe. To assume ideas/ideals stay the same over a half century, when we as people have changed so much is verging on impossible. That doesn't go without saying that yes, there are absolutes, but ideals are not one of them.

When I mention the changing tides of gender roles, I mean the future. With more women being born, of course more women will be in powerful positions. Revolutions take time.

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Post  Drunky McThuggerton on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:35 am

jennierock wrote:Feminism by defintion is a male created definition. Third wave feminist will tell you that. Feminism is an ever changing, ever evolving ideal. And people have their own definitions of civil rights, that's why our country is having a huge debate about gay marriage right now. If ideals do not change with time, experience and education, then there would be no growth and ideas would never evoloe. To assume ideas/ideals stay the same over a half century, when we as people have changed so much is verging on impossible. That doesn't go without saying that yes, there are absolutes, but ideals are not one of them.

When I mention the changing tides of gender roles, I mean the future. With more women being born, of course more women will be in powerful positions. Revolutions take time.
woman will always hold powerful roles in the world, but for them to hold more than men would take thousands of years on and constant, almost absolute, way of thinking.

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