Hawthorne,Ca: Police arrest man for filming them, shoot and kill his dog.

American Zombie Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:19 pm

fucking terrible. Wish I didn't even see that.COWARD LOW LIFE COPS.

THat dog wasn't that big of a danger and neither was that guy. He was mouthing off to the pigs which wasn't wise but he was clearly not a physical danger. They could have easily had him lock his dog up properly.

Chicken shit cowards.

W.Devil Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:20 pm

This video pissed me the fuck off...of course nothing will come of it either...

American Zombie Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:02 pm

They should have just tazed the dog or something.

W.Devil Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:40 pm

not only does he blast that dog but he sits there and watches as it writhes in pain and bleeds out..fuck man.

American Zombie Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:00 am

Someone at work told me that dogs usually die when they get tazed. Not sure if that's true. But still, I don't think they had to resort to that.

TumbleWeed Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:41 pm

W.Devil wrote:not only does he blast that dog but he sits there and watches as it writhes in pain and bleeds out..fuck man.

And continues to hold his aim at it even after it's squirming around and clearly dying.

TumbleWeed Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:42 pm

Kind of reminds me of this incident from last year. This dogs owner was epileptic and had collapsed on the floor after having a seizure. The dog does charge at the cop, but why not run instead of shooting it?

LOL at that loud bitch screaming in the background.

TumbleWeed Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:43 pm

Forum Warrior wrote:Someone at work told me that dogs usually die when they get tazed. Not sure if that's true. But still, I don't think they had to resort to that.

Yeah, I'm sure 50,000 volts is enough to kill even a large dog. Hell, those things sometimes kill human-beings.

TumbleWeed Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:52 pm

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by Scott Noll / KHOU 11 News

khou.com

Posted on May 14, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Updated Wednesday, May 15 at 9:36 AM

HOUSTON – It’s a pet owner’s nightmare.
Your dog gets gunned down right in front of you.
In fact, the KHOU 11 News I-Team found hundreds of cases where Houston-area law enforcement pulled the trigger and shot dogs.
No doubt, many of the cases were self defense where the officer had no other choice, but to shoot.
But some families said their “best friend” was shot needlessly.
The issue of dog shootings by police was the focus of a recent U.S. Department of Justice report ric-zai-inc.com/ric.php suggesting that departments add specialized training focused on teaching officers how to safely interact with dogs.
Wes and Aisling Jones hope that happens in Houston.
A smile comes to their face when the couple talks about their Boxer named “Boss.”
“He was the runt, with a solid black face,” recalled Aisling. She adopted Boss eight years ago and the couple says he was always gentle.
In pictures he’s seen playing with family members, including babies.
“We looked forward to him being around our kids,” said Aisling. “[It] is really what we wanted, but,” she said as her voice trailed off sadly.
That dream ended last fall.
Wes Jones says he was only trying to stop the neighbor’s dog from barking.
“Unfortunately, I sprayed the dog with the water hose,” said Wes. “To get him to back off.”
As a result, their neighbor called Houston police.
Soon two officers showed up, and walked up to the couple’s open front door.
The Jones say Boss was inside the living room.
Wes recalled being in the kitchen, ten to fifteen feet from the dog.
Suddenly, he heard knocking, followed by something he’ll never forget.
“Right after the knock, I mean two, three seconds,” said Wes. “I hear a shot and then more shots.”
Wes said he didn’t hear any barking or any growling as Boss went toward the door after officers knocked.
In a departmental report on the shooting, the HPD officers said, “A large boxer dog charged out the front door.”
But the Jones point to pictures they say prove Boss was four feet inside their front door when he was first shot.
The couple said their injured dog then ran outside, away from officers, toward his “safe place” where he kept his toys.
But the Jones said the bullets kept coming.
“They looked at it like they were at the shooting range,” said Aisling. “They had a real flesh target and they went after him.”
Boss was shot twice.
He eventually bled to death as Aisling held him in her arms.
“You know, when they say a dog is a man’s best friend?” said Aisling through her tears. “They really are.”
In the end, the Houston Police Department www.houstonpolice.org ruled the shooting was justified.
In fact, the department said it has ruled all 187 officer-involved shootings of dogs since January 1, 2010 as justified.
According to departmental records, 121 of those dogs died.
HPD declined to talk about the cases on camera, citing a pending lawsuit arising from one of the shootings.
However, a police spokesman said departmental policy authorizes officers to use any force necessary to protect someone in imminent danger of an attack.
But the 11 News I-Team found a trail of heartbroken dog-owners that stretches beyond city limits.
A review of cases from across the Houston-area revealed at least 228 dogs shot by police and deputies since 2010.
Out of that number, 142 dogs died.
“If the dog turns and comes at a citizen, or the deputy, they have all right to use lethal force,” explained Dpt. Thomas Gilliland of the Harris County Sheriff’s Office www.harriscountyso.org/.
Records show Harris County deputies shot 38 canines in the last three-and-a-half years.
The I-Team asked Gilliland if the shootings were justified.
“The justification is, in that matter, and at that moment the deputy had to choose the decision to use lethal force against that animal,” explained Gilliland.
But some say there’s a better way.
“A lot of times, officers are not sent to training to get that type of certification to feel comfortable enough to deal with these animals,” explained Sgt. Joseph Guerra of the Precinct 6 Constable’s Department.
Guerra works as a cruelty investigator for the Houston Humane Society www.houstonhumane.org/ and teaches police how to safety interact with threatening dogs.
He demonstrated how a police baton can be used to distract a dog.
“It’s enough for you to back up slowly and exit the gate and make that phone call to the owner and have them put that dog up,” explained Guerra.
He believes mandatory training for officers is the key to lowering the number of dogs shot and killed by police.
As of press time, neither HPD, nor the Harris County Sheriff’s Office requires such lessons.
“We need to get those officers involved in some mandated training in how to defend before going to deadly force,” said Guerra.
It’s an idea the Jones agree with.
They believe what happened to them, should never happen again.
“If they can get away with shooting a dog, why would they stop there?” said Aisling.
According to figures from both departments, Houston police shot more dogs last year than New York City Police officers shot in 2010 and 2011 combined.
Following shootings in their cities, both Arlington and Fort Worth Police Departments started mandatory dog training for officers last fall.
State law makers are considering a bill now that would require the training for officers across Texas.

http://www.khou.com/news/investigative/Are-local-police-shooting-dogs-first-asking-questions-later-207423191.html

American Zombie Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:01 pm

being anti state, I can't help but point out that this is just typical of police. I hope these kind of videos open people's eyes to the nature of law enforcement.

These are NOT "PEACE" officers that are there to SERVE and PROTECT. The main people they care about protecting is themselves. The main institution they protect is the STATE.

I can think of a dozen ways that the entire situation could have been avoided all together. But these people aren't interested in making peace and avoiding trouble, they're mostly interested in domination. The point is to prove that they're in charge, and making sure that you submit and kiss their feet. It is authoritarianism, simple and plain. That is why the cops even arrested that man in the first place. It was out of vengeance. " How dare this man mock us, let's crush him." That's all it is.

There is hope for alternatives though.

https://iestreetlife.aforumfree.com/t4368-anarcho-police

American Zombie Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:43 pm

A man uses his cell phone camera to video a group of “heroes” doing a SWAT-style home invasion – probably of a home where arbitrarily illegal “drugs” were alleged to be. In any event, the man is clearly no physical threat to the proceedings – or those doing the proceeding. He is on the periphery of the scene, along with a number of other bystanders. But his videoing of the proceedings alarms – rather, it annoys - two “heroes,” who begin to approach him. At this point, the man – who had been taking his video while walking around with his leashed dog in tow – very non-threateningly walks back to his nearby car, shoos his dog inside, then calmly walks back to meet with the “heroes.” He is not belligerent; he made no attempt to flee. And more to the point, he violated no law as it is still legal to video “heroes” in public – just as they are at liberty to video us when we are out in public. Whether they like being filmed is as irrelevant (in terms of the law) as whether we like being filmed by them. Except of course, that “the law” doesn’t matter when “heroes” are involved.

Thus: Even though the man had done nothing illegal, nor had he done anything to suggest he was any sort of physical threat to the “heroes,” he was accosted – physically assaulted – by a pair of “heroes.” Two against one – the unfair fight, again – and over nothing.

Whereupon the man’s dog – who witnessed the unprovoked assault of his master by two strange men – frantically leapt out of the car’s open window and rushed to his master’s defense. And for this was summarily executed by the “heroes” . . . in the name of “officer safety.”
Of course, it would have been a whole lot safer for all involved had these “heroes” reacted appropriately – that is, like normal human beings who are obliged to keep their Inner Chimp in check as opposed to costumed and armed thugs who know they can over-react without consequences.

The man was in a public area, in no conceivable way “interfering” with anything. However, he was guilty of challenging theunwritten (but mercilessly enforced) law that one must never treat a “hero” disrespectfully. And taking video of “heroes” is regarded (by the “heroes” themselves) as precisely that – an affront to their authority. It is much worse than merely questioning what they do. Because it is a record of what they do. Which implies that what they’re doing at the time of the recording might not be quite right.

http://ericpetersautos.com/2013/07/08/if-cops-are-heroes/