IxE barrios and Cliques

Its always seemed to me that their has always been alot of confusion when it comes to most of the older IE varrios and the clicks/gangs within them. I'm starting to think I know why and believe barrios like WSV,Colton, ESR, CBR, WSR, CVLS4st have more in common then I had thought.

Each of these barrios have gangs/cliques within them and the question always comes up wether these are clicks or gangs claiming the area. People would like a simple black or white answer but I'm starting to think its more of a gray answer on this which is why I think theirs confusion.

If you look into the history of these areas youll see how they all pushed their own gangs within these areas. Take a look at the jackets they wore and how they have the gang name on top and the city/barrio they were from on the bottom. All these varrios have that in common.

Example, Casa Blanca is the name of the barrio, but within this barrio they have always had different gangs. yet they all push V CBR 13/32. Now, CB is the most obvious one because of the Evans vs Fern St fued. But I do think the rest are similar. WSV Mt Vernon, another old barrio with gangs within it that Sometimes get mistaken as clicks.

I think over time some of the older barrios became more united as more and more newer hoods popped up around them..part of why they start to look more like cliques than seperate gangs.

Not sure if I explained all this right. Only one that I talked to about this so far is DT.

Good break down on the barrios and their seperate gangs Crayster. I agree.

DT was saying the other day that 2 WSRiva cliques/gangs used to go at it some years ago but later ended their fued when DTR started up. So that kind of supports my idea of all of this. Then to make things more confusing you have ESR broken into maybe 2 main gangs/cliques and each with actual cliques within it if I understand right. They also represented their gang and barrio on their jackets same as CBR, Colton , Verdugo and the rest. Over time things have changed but I think they all had a similiar structure in the begining.

GOOD BREAKDOWN CRAYSTER...

cray wrote:DT was saying the other day that 2 WSRiva cliques/gangs used to go at it some years ago but later ended their fued when DTR started up. So that kind of supports my idea of all of this.

Yeah, that's what it seems like. I came across this dude name Sporty's space a while back. Guess he's from WSR DMS click...he's up on there dissing WSR Lobos and Blue Devils, saying fuck em because they're making his varrio look bad.

Good post.

so Mt Vernon is the oldest WSV gang? and how did the other cliques came about?

C/Lok wrote:so Mt Vernon is the oldest WSV gang? and how did the other cliques came about?

Looks like you completely missed the whole point of the original post

The actual barrios remain the same the gangs within them may or may not change from generation to generation.

C/Lok wrote:so Mt Vernon is the oldest WSV gang? and how did the other cliques came about?

WEST SIDE VERDUGO IS THE AREA, THE BARRIO AND SCO,LC,MVR,7th STREET..ECT ARE ALL GANGS NOT CLICKS...THEY ALL CLAIM WS OF BERDO BUT DO THERE OWN THING...STARTED THERE OWN WAY.

I think ESR might fit into this topic, if i understand it correctly. I'm not too familiar with them yet, but they seem to be "seperate but equal" when it comes to outside battles. All those individual gangs dont seem like ONE hood, yet they all bang under ESR. Then again, i said the same for OVS so i dont really know. It is confusing at times trying to figure this all out with certain neighborhoods/areas i'm not familiar with.

Jae wrote:I think ESR might fit into this topic, if i understand it correctly. I'm not too familiar with them yet, but they seem to be "seperate but equal" when it comes to outside battles. All those individual gangs dont seem like ONE hood, yet they all bang under ESR. Then again, i said the same for OVS so i dont really know. It is confusing at times trying to figure this all out with certain neighborhoods/areas i'm not familiar with.

ya as a matter of fact es riva was one of the main places we and crayster loc were talkin bout

C/Lok wrote:so Mt Vernon is the oldest WSV gang? and how did the other cliques came about?

7th is the OLdest WSV gang

i woulda thought it was verdugo counts...

909VFG909 wrote:

C/Lok wrote:so Mt Vernon is the oldest WSV gang? and how did the other cliques came about?

7th is the OLdest WSV gang

LOL. No it's not.

Jae, I think youre correct for the most part. I know a cat from CLPS who told me he was shot at by some cats from PxP. He also said that they had some problems with 14st from time to time. As far as CB, Fern and Evans have been going back and forth for some time now, but they will clique together to go at it with outsiders for example HSR. I always thought CB was pretty unique cuz they dont really beef with the black in the Varrio (2800 Blocc).

I know Joker from SCO got shot in his ass just for walking through 7th street territory. Each gang of WSV is pretty big, it won't be easy to tell who is who.

all eyes on me wrote:Jae, I think youre correct for the most part. I know a cat from CLPS who told me he was shot at by some cats from PxP. He also said that they had some problems with 14st from time to time. As far as CB, Fern and Evans have been going back and forth for some time now, but they will clique together to go at it with outsiders for example HSR. I always thought CB was pretty unique cuz they dont really beef with the black in the Varrio (2800 Blocc).

i think cray said he seen a XIV st hit up with 187 park ave one it...

Jae wrote:I think ESR might fit into this topic, if i understand it correctly. I'm not too familiar with them yet, but they seem to be "seperate but equal" when it comes to outside battles. All those individual gangs dont seem like ONE hood, yet they all bang under ESR. Then again, i said the same for OVS so i dont really know. It is confusing at times trying to figure this all out with certain neighborhoods/areas i'm not familiar with.

YEAH IT DOES ITS ITS ALL ONE VARRIO BUT DIFFERENT GANGS THERES 14TH STREET THE ORIGINAL EAST SIDE RIVA. THEN THERES PATTERSON PARK THE SKANLESS SIDE. AND THERES CLICKA LOS PRIMOS THE YOUNGEST AND LEAST RESPECTED VARRIO.
THE CEEPEST OLDEST AND MOST ORGANIZED IS 14TH STREET, PXP IS PRETTY DEEP TOO BUT THEY'RE UNORGANIZED BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE ALL TWEEKED OUT, AND CLPS ONLY HAS ABOUT 20 OR 30 HEADS WHO REALLY NEVER PUT IN WORK...

all eyes on me wrote:Jae, I think youre correct for the most part. I know a cat from CLPS who told me he was shot at by some cats from PxP. He also said that they had some problems with 14st from time to time. As far as CB, Fern and Evans have been going back and forth for some time now, but they will clique together to go at it with outsiders for example HSR. I always thought CB was pretty unique cuz they dont really beef with the black in the Varrio (2800 Blocc).

YEA WE NEVER BEEF WITH CBGC BUT WE DO HAVE OUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS... AS FOR E ST. AND THE FERNIES WE NEVER CLICK UP NOT EVEN TO GO AT IT WITH HSD OR ESR WE GO WITH OUR OWN HOMIES TO PUT IN WORK WE NEVER ROLL TOGETHER.. I GUESS WE HAVE TOO MUCH HATE FOR EACH OTHER TO EVER COME IN CONTACT WITHOUT GOING AT IT

The Royal Counts are older than 7th St, but what's out now is the LiL Counts, before them it was CountsGang started around the time as Seventh, older clicks you rarely hear about are the Tokens and Toppers and Royal Angels. WS×VERDUGO MOUNT VERNON is the gang, in reality everything else is a click, but we use "gang" individually cause the term click, to us seemed more like a branch as opposed to the tree itself. But you can't bang WS without the MV if your not from, 7street, Crazie Ones, LiL Counts, there's homies from all three that have MV tats on em.

ya homie...i didnt really know bout your varrio but i had an idea thats how it was...just like esriva and other varrios. one huge ass varrio.

CRAYZ wrote:DT was saying the other day that 2 WSRiva cliques/gangs used to go at it some years ago but later ended their fued when DTR started up. So that kind of supports my idea of all of this. Then to make things more confusing you have ESR broken into maybe 2 main gangs/cliques and each with actual cliques within it if I understand right. They also represented their gang and barrio on their jackets same as CBR, Colton , Verdugo and the rest. Over time things have changed but I think they all had a similiar structure in the begining.

old ass post but yes i have heard alot that there is separation between the WSR clickas wayy before DTR came around i heard this started in the mid-late 80s according to some older homie from WSRiva... the DMS and BDTS always separated from the LBS and until they came out, the BXDVS.. they used to beef and this was an uncle & older homie who told me this.. also i just heard from another old homie that WSR was not heard of til the late 60s so they might not be as old as everyone says... he said the only varrios he heard in his day were Casa Blanca ESR Corona and Verdugo he was from the 50s & 60s.. then after lil by lil he would hear of Onterio Arlanza then La Sierra then WSR... casa blanca has always beefed and always will.. ESR i heard there were beefs between 14th & TDKS over power of ESR, then between PXP & CLPS theres always infighting between ESR