THE BIG SCREEN....COMIC BOOK, CARTOON MOVIES....

wesiderider wrote:It seems comic oriented movies are becoming a big $ maker in Hollywood. From X-Men to the last airbender, which movies have been total flops, which ones are good, which ones need to be made?

WxE.HUERO wrote:I liked that Punisher movie. It wasn't as dark as I would expect a Punisher movie to be...but it was still good, i thought. The Punisher was always my favorite comic book character.

wesiderider wrote:Powerman & ironfist are cool, cloak&dagger would be a good one as well as alpha-flight....doctor strange would be a kick ass wizard type movie....w/ dormammu and nightmare as enemies, the graphics for that would be tight.....a series worth making for tv the Kree/Skrull war....a Submariner movie I think would be cool....

wesiderider wrote:The only drawback to an 'Avengers' movie would be the characters chosen to represent them, like the x-men...cool flicks, but a little off detail.....300,cool flick a little off tho....scholars believe he died before the last of his men did, not standing alone in a hail of arrows as shown in the movie, I believe the last of his men died protecting his body from being taken and beheaded.....to no avail....

wesiderider wrote:Nick Fury vs. The Hydra, sweet....a deeper look into S.H.I.E.L.D, only touched on in the Iron-Man flicks, the 'ArmorWars' for Iron-Man should be the next title...imo ...did you ever come across the Marvel cards? I bought'em in the 90's in hopes the value would rise, did they?

wesiderider wrote:Your absolutely right about the books themselves taking a dive, a lot of book collectors bought into the marvel card hype,it seemed at the peak of baseball card mania.....if they're gonna screw up the spidey flicks, make it a spidey&sinister six movie....fuck it!!!

The rise and fall of the speculator market

By the late 1980s, important comic books, such as the first appearance of a classic character or first issue of a long-running series, were sold for thousands of dollars. Mainstream newspapers ran reports that comic books were good financial investments and soon collectors were buying massive amounts of comics they thought would be valuable in the future.

Publishers responded by manufacturing collectors’ items, such as trading cards, and “limited editions” of certain issues featuring a special or variant cover. The first issues of Marvel Comics' X-Force, X-Men, vol. 2 and Spider-Man became some of the first and most notorious examples of this trend. Another trend which emerged was foil-stamped covers. The first Marvel comic book with a foil-stamped cover was the second volume of the Silver Surfer, issue 50. A glow-in-the-dark cover for Ghost Rider, volume 2, issue 15 appeared as well. This led a market boom, where retail shops and publishers made huge profits and many companies, large and small, expanded their lines. Image Comics in particular became notorious for this, with many of its series debuting with alternate covers, wide use of embossed and foil covers and other "collectible" traits.

This trend was not confined to the books themselves, and many other pieces of merchandise, such as toys, particularly "chase" action figures (figures made in smaller runs than others in a particular line), trading cards, and other items, were also expected to appreciate in value. McFarlane Toys was notable for this, as it created many variations in its high-quality toys, most of which were main characters or occasional guest stars in the Spawn series.

But few, in the glut of new series, possessed lasting artistic quality and the items that were predicted to be valuable did not become so, often because of huge print runs that made them commonplace. A crash occurred, sales plummeted, hundreds of retail stores closed and many publishers downsized. In 1996, Marvel Comics, the largest company in the industry, declared bankruptcy (it has since rebounded). The industry has still not yet fully recovered from the speculator crash.

The crash also marked the relative downfall of the large franchises, inter-connected "families" of titles that lead to a glut of merchandising. While the big franchise titles still have a large amount of regular titles and merchandising attached to them, all of these things were notably scaled back after the crash. Several franchises have once again gained prominence, such as the X-Men, due in large part to the feature films X-Men and X2, and many DC heroes thanks to the success of various animated series' based on their characters, such as Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, and Teen Titans.

wesiderider wrote:They gotta 'green lantern' movie coming soon, seen the trailer on youtube....looks interesting. 3l3m3ntal, remember that fake ass avengers movie with uma Thurman...lol....

wesiderider wrote:I used to,along time ago...I haven't purchased any for about 20 or so years now,the ones I still have, my son and I read together......the one's I have say 'marvel triple action' or 'marvel tales'. ...ya know 'tales of suspense' and they cost about 30-50¢.......one he likes the most is 'spiderman vs daredevil', only cause we have the movies....

DontxTrip wrote:
the green lantern movie trailer

wesiderider wrote:Anyone catch the ending of the 'IronMan2' flick, looks like 'Thor' could be the next marvel comics movie...
'RED' is a kick ass movie associated with DC comics.....

wesiderider wrote:I used to,along time ago...I haven't purchased any for about 20 or so years now,the ones I still have, my son and I read together......the one's I have say 'marvel triple action' or 'marvel tales'. ...ya know 'tales of suspense' and they cost about 30-50¢.......one he likes the most is 'spiderman vs daredevil', only cause we have the movies....

W.Devil wrote:LOL @ having a black dude playing a norse god in that Thor movie...haha..wow...


Looks like an entertaining movie though.

SFxSTONER wrote:

wesiderider wrote:I used to,along time ago...I haven't purchased any for about 20 or so years now,the ones I still have, my son and I read together......the one's I have say 'marvel triple action' or 'marvel tales'. ...ya know 'tales of suspense' and they cost about 30-50¢.......one he likes the most is 'spiderman vs daredevil', only cause we have the movies....

Did you ever go to The Compleat Paperbacker in La Puente? It was on Amar, next to the Hi-Brow. Man, they had boxes of all the old comics and would sell them for really cheap. I used to collect Tales Of Suspense (especially if it had the Red Skull in it), Strange Tales (Nick Fury vs. Hydra) and some issues of The Invaders. They would be like 25 cents each. They closed around 1994. They had a porn section, so my uncle would drive me up there & he'd check out the Hustlers and shit, hahaha.

wesiderider wrote:I've never been there but it sounds like a collectors dream come true, boxes of the old shit....good condition comics tho right, now and days find an old comic like at a swapmeet its missing pages or something's wrong with it....I used to go to this bookstore on MT.Vernon, in the southside cool ass little bookstore....or my other alternative was supermarkets....you dont see supermarkets with comic racks anymore do you....did you ever dry drawing the characters you read about??? My uncle gots pictures of him in the army with his buddies drawing iron-man or captain America on tanks or apc's,crazy shit....