I, Pet Goat II

ive been reading alot of interpretations of this vid, but the end of it is what i have a problem with. The company that made it is called "heliofant". people read alot into the symbolism into this video, but i think they read the ending wrong, when they believe it shows Jesus' return. watch it.

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satanist propaganda disinformation video....lol

But on a more serious note, I noted SEVERAL things in this video which are obviously occultic in nature. I think a specific interpretation is required to fully understand what the maker was trying to convey here.

But apart from the blatantly obvious derogatory, and not to mention, blasphemous depiction of Jesus Christ, I noticed one or two things in particular that stood out towards the end; in the scene when this "Jesus" figure is riding out into the horizon, there is a cross perched upon some kind of structure (perhaps representative of the collective Church?). This structure eventually topples over, and the Christ figure continues into the horizon. At this time, 3 pyramids come into picture which are then destroyed by what seems like comets or asteroids.

I'm going to look deeper into this for sure though. I'll be posting some more thoughts later.

NYTE RYDA wrote:But on a more serious note, I noted SEVERAL things in this video which are obviously occultic in nature. I think a specific interpretation is required to fully understand what the maker was trying to convey here.

But apart from the blatantly obvious derogatory, and not to mention, blasphemous depiction of Jesus Christ, I noticed one or two things in particular that stood out towards the end; in the scene when this "Jesus" figure is riding out into the horizon, there is a cross perched upon some kind of structure (perhaps representative of the collective Church?). This structure eventually topples over, and the Christ figure continues into the horizon. At this time, 3 pyramids come into picture which are then destroyed by what seems like comets or asteroids.

I'm going to look deeper into this for sure though. I'll be posting some more thoughts later.

on the official site it has some analysis of the vid but stops short of describing their jesus character. which make s me believe that the jesus in the vid is actually the ant christ.

Those two final scenes appear to be allegorical and imply the doing away with and destruction of both past and present aspects of civilization/society and culture, with the emergence of a new one in the form of a Utopian New World Order. I also believe that the destruction of the cross or church structure in this video holds significance importance.

The "Jesus" figure is most definitely representative of the anti-christ.

Any information behind the people who made this? I'd like to get more insight on them and the alleged motives behind this production.

Its art, and like beauty, is determined by whom beholds it.

Interpretation is a constructive process, limited by the tools of the builder.

Knowledge is the resource, and with abundance, brings clarity.

The Christ-like figure has a third eye painted right on the pineal gland, which refers to the concept of spiritual illumination. The triangle above the eye represents divinity and that illumination leads to the contact with one’s own divine nature.

Just a snippet from the article that "Vigilant", from Vigilant Citizen, recently posted regarding this video. I've watched the video three times and am just now beginning to notice the strong prevalence of Gnostic undertones in it. For those in here unfamiliar with this term; it's derived from the Greek word "gnosis" which means knowledge. The "Gnostics" were a group of heretics who existed around the time of the formation of the early Christian church. They gained in popularity in certain regions but were largely rejected by early Christians for their doctrines which greatly dissented from established Christian beliefs.

According to the producers of the video, this Christ figure is supposed to be representative of the actual viewer of the film, and not Jesus Christ Himself. Their description appears to be in line with the basic tenets of Gnosticism and other esoteric schools of thought, which teach that salvation is a matter of attaining special or "hidden knowledge" not readily available to the common man. They seem to be promoting the personal or spiritual "enlightenment" of oneself as the key to breaking away from the corruption and evils of this world.

Personally, I don't believe that their sole intention in creating this film was to merely generate self-awareness of the corruption that is around us while suggesting an escape from it. They imply this in their description of the video, but careful scrutiny of the film has revealed otherwise to me.

You can check out the entire article I quoted from earlier HERE

People are going to interpret the symbolisms of the video according to their present understanding of the world around them; including religion, spirituality, politics, current events, etc..

I thought the video was brilliant. Like any piece of art, it's open to individual interpretation; some may like the thoughts and emotions that come to them and some may not. The latter are more inclined to disagree with the concepts; either because of their level of understanding or their boundaries of principle beliefs.

I have to agree with the article stating, "In short, the story is about the triumph of spiritual enlightenment against the forces of darkness."

A hot chick in a bikini is still a hot chick in a bikini; whether or not she has a zit on her chin or a hairy bush peeking out from her muff... I'd still hit that.

Well its cool I to me personally made me feel likes there's life after death a rebirth per say, like occult things aren't really occult their just history of ancient civilizations and just seems like a embodiment of the understanding of human nature and us as a people whether it be other peoples opinions or ideology the the realm of the human mind.

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I think when you read some of the artists own interpretations, its fair to make your own, along the same lines as theirs. using the same context. It is somewhat telling however, that the most important part of the short video, the Jesus figure, was left un-analyzed, which in turn leaves it open to interpretation.

DontxTrip wrote:satanist propaganda disinformation video....lol

I've pretty much come to this conclusion.

Religion is just another tool created by the puppet masters of ancient times used to divide and conquer and maintain control.

Underdog wrote:Religion is just another tool created by the puppet masters of ancient times used to divide and conquer and maintain control.

That's too easy of an analogy, holmes ^ ^ ^ ^
you got to get into the heart of "religion" in order to fully critique it

Underdog wrote:Religion is just another tool created by the puppet masters of ancient times used to divide and conquer and maintain control.

Religion isn't the problem its us as a people that need to take responsibility for what we do and how we use and control it. I'm sorry but a child isn't born evil hes born ignorant and solely relies on outside influence to make them intelligent and if any force that be corrupts them or manipulate it from good then it is most likely our own fault. Same can be said about any system of government or ideology we are the problem because in the end we are the ones that hold our own individual power to manifest our destiny and each other and majority of our social surroundings.

wolfman wrote:
That's too easy of an analogy, holmes ^ ^ ^ ^
you got to get into the heart of "religion" in order to fully critique it

Been there, done that.
I wrote a book on Christian history and philosophy in the '90s.
I've studied pretty much all world religions; that's my hobby of expertise.
Unlike a lot of Christians however, I've never stopped looking and researching. I don't preach the same thing for years on end; especially after advances in science has shown some religious concepts to be quite archaic and antiquated.
As symbolized in the bible, the four horses of the apocalypse represent the dominions of power the old family of 'puppet masters' have had on societies since the beginning.
I've been contemplating writing another book based on the four horses.
To understand the four horses is like waking up from a bad dream where everything you thought you knew and were taught turned out to be just one huge lie after another.

Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. (Ecc. 1:2)

Trust no man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of? (Isa. 2:22)

elvo wrote:
Religion isn't the problem its us as a people that need to take responsibility for what we do and how we use and control it. I'm sorry but a child isn't born evil hes born ignorant and solely relies on outside influence to make them intelligent and if any force that be corrupts them or manipulate it from good then it is most likely our own fault. Same can be said about any system of government or ideology we are the problem because in the end we are the ones that hold our own individual power to manifest our destiny and each other and majority of our social surroundings.

Never said religion was the problem. The problem isn't usually the tool, it's the one using the tool. Whoever said a person was born evil? ..and why are you apologizing for it? Where'd that come from? Sounds like religious dogma to me, i.e. 'original sin.' Which to be honest, sounds like a contradiction in that religion is a problem to you. Of course people have to be taught to learn. This is influenced by the parents and their beliefs and ideals. Neglectful and dysfunctional parents tend to have neglectful and dysfunctional children. Unless the child has someone of influence outside the family.

I'm sorry, but your last statement makes no sense at all. Perhaps you might want to rephrase it.

Also... I am not a wannabe (MODERATORS)... Wannabe what? I am what I am already. There's nothing else I 'wannabe.' OK?

think about it, homie

ALL the worlds civilizations are based on "principals"

so ask yourself the question..
where do those principals come from? if not from GOD given "doctrine"

unless of course you think that a monkey came from an ape and turned into upright man who then came up with the structure for "society"

Underdog wrote:

elvo wrote:
Religion isn't the problem its us as a people that need to take responsibility for what we do and how we use and control it. I'm sorry but a child isn't born evil hes born ignorant and solely relies on outside influence to make them intelligent and if any force that be corrupts them or manipulate it from good then it is most likely our own fault. Same can be said about any system of government or ideology we are the problem because in the end we are the ones that hold our own individual power to manifest our destiny and each other and majority of our social surroundings.

Never said religion was the problem. The problem isn't usually the tool, it's the one using the tool. Whoever said a person was born evil? ..and why are you apologizing for it? Where'd that come from? Sounds like religious dogma to me, i.e. 'original sin.' Which to be honest, sounds like a contradiction in that religion is a problem to you. Of course people have to be taught to learn. This is influenced by the parents and their beliefs and ideals. Neglectful and dysfunctional parents tend to have neglectful and dysfunctional children. Unless the child has someone of influence outside the family.

I'm sorry, but your last statement makes no sense at all. Perhaps you might want to rephrase it.

Also... I am not a wannabe (MODERATORS)... Wannabe what? I am what I am already. There's nothing else I 'wannabe.' OK?

its just our ranking system. keep posting and itll change...lol

Underdog wrote:

elvo wrote:
Religion isn't the problem its us as a people that need to take responsibility for what we do and how we use and control it. I'm sorry but a child isn't born evil hes born ignorant and solely relies on outside influence to make them intelligent and if any force that be corrupts them or manipulate it from good then it is most likely our own fault. Same can be said about any system of government or ideology we are the problem because in the end we are the ones that hold our own individual power to manifest our destiny and each other and majority of our social surroundings.

Never said religion was the problem. The problem isn't usually the tool, it's the one using the tool. Whoever said a person was born evil? ..and why are you apologizing for it? Where'd that come from? Sounds like religious dogma to me, i.e. 'original sin.' Which to be honest, sounds like a contradiction in that religion is a problem to you. Of course people have to be taught to learn. This is influenced by the parents and their beliefs and ideals. Neglectful and dysfunctional parents tend to have neglectful and dysfunctional children. Unless the child has someone of influence outside the family.

I'm sorry, but your last statement makes no sense at all. Perhaps you might want to rephrase it.

Also... I am not a wannabe (MODERATORS)... Wannabe what? I am what I am already. There's nothing else I 'wannabe.' OK?

I'm not arguing with you or assuming things about you I never mentioned your name or said what I said was aimed at you it wasn't even personal like you assumed it was I just told the truth nuff said and me apologizing I'm apologizing for the fact that there is people that use stuff like ideology or media or governments to take advantage of people it wasn't directed to anyone just a self apology to ppl in general which I need no reason to do because like I said I reason and have rights and do what I want.The reason I mention children is because im using it to describe the people that have grown up that use and abuse the system of governments and ie religion it wasn't meant to tell you that I thought any one said ppl were born evil it was a method to describe the ppl of abusive tyranny in the world like you had previously stated in your statement, and mod thing I really don't get so kinda confused about that statement.

Keep on topic, and maybe start using periods and commas to separate your sentences. ^^

Saying religion is just a tool created by ancient people is pretty much dumb. I understand that you have probably done alot of research but im interested in how science has disproved religions. Underdog please enlighten me because I acn prove you wrong...

99% of religion is bunk.

GRASS FED LAMB wrote:99% of religion is bunk.

and whats the other 1%??