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Post  American Zombie Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:08 pm

VOTE !!!!!

Rock the vote!! It's so important that everyone get out and vote and exercise their GAAWd given right to vote!

It's also important to participate in this religious democratic ceremony and show our rulers that we consent to their rigged system and consider it legitimate!

Remember, might makes right and majorities are always right.

So vote, vote , vote.

Don't know the issues?

Don't know the politicians who are running?

You've done no research what so ever as to what's best for public policy?

Doesn't matter!! JUST go out and VOTE anyways!!
It doesn't matter if people like you destroy society by voting for a bunch of idiotic policies! All that matters is that you be a good political peasant and show enthusiasm for this democratic ritual and think your insignificant vote matters!
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Post  Forum Gawd Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:21 pm

Felons are not allowed to vote, so I'm good on all that. mex
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Post  American Zombie Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:24 pm

Sucks for you. Voting makes you morally superior.
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Post  Guest Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:38 pm

Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?

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Post  Forum Gawd Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:06 pm

jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?
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Can't even leave my house unless it's for work  israel-flag-51 besides the Talmud don't permit it.
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Post  American Zombie Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:11 pm

jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?


Was my sarcasm not strong enough?
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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:49 am

CauseItsReal wrote:
jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?


Was my sarcasm not strong enough?
It was, but apparently mine wasn't.

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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:57 am

HxTwo wrote:
jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?
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Can't even leave my house unless it's for work  israel-flag-51 besides the Talmud don't permit it.
Hey


Hey


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Build a bridge 


And get over it.


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That does bring up a valid argument though.


We always hear the rhetoric of every citizens RIGHT to vote. It's a right in this democracy to vote. It's our right to pick legislation and representatives. Right? However, if you're in jail/prison it no longer is a right, it's a privilege that you lose. As is the case with felons on probation/parole and house arrest (is that what it's called still?). So is it really a right? Or is it a privilege that "good" citizens that do what they're told get to have?

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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:59 am

HxTwo wrote:
jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?
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Can't even leave my house unless it's for work  israel-flag-51 besides the Talmud don't permit it.
[size=30]האם אתה קורא את התלמוד בעברית?[/size]

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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:03 am

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Post  American Zombie Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:46 am

jennierock wrote:
HxTwo wrote:
jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?
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Can't even leave my house unless it's for work  israel-flag-51 besides the Talmud don't permit it.
Hey


Hey


Hey






Build a bridge 


And get over it.


affraid



That does bring up a valid argument though.


We always hear the rhetoric of every citizens RIGHT to vote. It's a right in this democracy to vote. It's our right to pick legislation and representatives. Right? However, if you're in jail/prison it no longer is a right, it's a privilege that you lose. As is the case with felons on probation/parole and house arrest (is that what it's called still?). So is it really a right? Or is it a privilege that "good" citizens that do what they're told get to have?



Yeah I was going to say something along those lines.

People call everything a Right , these days.

But if it were truly a right, like a right to life, then everyone should be able to vote.
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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:48 am

CauseItsReal wrote:
jennierock wrote:
HxTwo wrote:
jennierock wrote:Scary!

It's like you've been kidnapped, microchipped and released to be like everyone else.

I know voting felons. Isn't while on probation/parole?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Can't even leave my house unless it's for work  israel-flag-51 besides the Talmud don't permit it.
Hey


Hey


Hey






Build a bridge 


And get over it.


affraid



That does bring up a valid argument though.


We always hear the rhetoric of every citizens RIGHT to vote. It's a right in this democracy to vote. It's our right to pick legislation and representatives. Right? However, if you're in jail/prison it no longer is a right, it's a privilege that you lose. As is the case with felons on probation/parole and house arrest (is that what it's called still?). So is it really a right? Or is it a privilege that "good" citizens that do what they're told get to have?



Yeah I was going to say something along those lines.

People call everything a Right , these days.

But if it were truly a right, like a right to life, then everyone should be able to vote.
Whoa! A right to life is getting into pro-life area of the rights debate. Or even euthanasia.

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Post  American Zombie Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:43 am

I don't think I so...

I just mean in the natural rights theory or philosophy tradition of rights. The idea that people have a natural right to live and not be killed.

But I'm not a natural rightist guy, I was just using that as an example to point out the contradiction.



If it can be taken away and still be seen as legitimate or not be seen as a crime than Maybe it's just a privilege .

I personally believe nobody has an inherent right to vote in a political public policy/politician campaign democratic election.
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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:51 am

CauseItsReal wrote:I don't think I so...

I just mean in the natural rights theory or philosophy tradition of rights. The idea that people have a natural right to live and not be killed.

But I'm not a natural rightist guy, I was just using that as an example to point out the contradiction.

If something is truly a right, then it cannot be taken away.

If it can be taken away and still be seen as legitimate than Maybe it's just a privilege .

I personally believe nobody has an inherent right to vote in a political public policy/politician campaign democratic election.

I know what you meant. But life being taken if the case of the death penalty is considered legitimate by some. 

It's all a matter of perspective. It all goes back to who decides what is right/wrong, good/bad in a society. 

So who determines what's a right versus a privilege since so many argue such things?

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Post  American Zombie Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:59 am

Well that opens up a can of philosophical worms.

Right and wrong, you'd have to get People to adapt a philosophy of Morals and ethics I suppose..

Wether it's religious doctrines or morals derived from purely philosophical reasoning ( which is controversial) , it comes down to what people in society at that time believe In.

The thing is, people are so full of contradictions in their ideologies and thinking. That's where a push for more logic and reasoning skills would be helpful..
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Post  Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:12 am

I love your idealistic nature.

I think the first step in the right direction is the destruction of the state. Then people with like-minded ideologies can form their own communal unions. The large issue with that becomes combating corruption and militaristic ideals of taking other communities. How do small disbanded societies protect themselves from a state uprising? A pledge amoung conjoined communities? 

I agree. There needs to be more focus on reason and logic, however, feelings shouldn't be considered illegitimate. Beautiful works of art have sprang forth from illogical minds. Then we would all be Klingons (yes, I made a Star Trek reference). There needs to be balance, with reason and logic in the forefront.

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Post  CaliKid Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:44 am

Corruption is unlikely to be destroyed nor can it be taken out by any force of humanly nature. The air, the world, everything is primarily involved around wickedness. There is likely a spiritual battle, battling it out a rather fiercesome battle that takes place in an another dimension we aren't to sure of, but we can only be aware that evil is similar to the air, its invisible yet we all are aware of air, similarity evil has and maintains an unrighteous reputation, religion appears to be to most of humanity, not all there are the atheist obviously, the source to our solution in life. They, however, don't fully understand what it is they are worshiping, for that being said, we head to church and enjoy listening to a man preach and chatter to a group of confused and truth seeking people. Reading the bible, the holy bible, to study and to catch up on research, you will likely come across some intriguing and useful information, you would be stunningly surprised of its outcome.
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Post  American Zombie Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:18 pm

jennierock wrote:I love your idealistic nature.

I think the first step in the right direction is the destruction of the state. Then people with like-minded ideologies can form their own communal unions. The large issue with that becomes combating corruption and militaristic ideals of taking other communities. How do small disbanded societies protect themselves from a state uprising? A pledge amoung conjoined communities? 

I agree. There needs to be more focus on reason and logic, however, feelings shouldn't be considered illegitimate. Beautiful works of art have sprang forth from illogical minds. Then we would all be Klingons (yes, I made a Star Trek reference). There needs to be balance, with reason and logic in the forefront.


There's many ways to handle these difficult problems, but we do know that a free society will be far more wealthy than a statist society. Wealthier societies have a better ability to defend themselves because they have the resources to do it.

People will band together for survival and raise funds to defend themselves if they have to. Of course, no system will ever be 100% safe and protected.

I don't think feelings and emotions are illegitimate but we've gone too far in that direction with not enough emphasis on the importance of logical thinking.
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