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Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
TumbleWeed Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:25 pm
http://www.sbsun.com/general-news/20131113/victorville-mass-grave-discovery-sheriff-to-provide-body-count-estimate
Victorville mass grave discovery: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
By Doug Saunders, The Sun
POSTED: 11/13/13, 6:48 AM PST | UPDATED: 6 HRS AGO
San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies investigate an area on Nov. 13, 2013, where multiple grave sites were found west of the 15 Freeway on the outskirts of Victorville. (Photo by John Valenzuela/San Bernardino Sun)
VICTORVILLE >> San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said he should have an estimate by this afternoon on the number of people buried in as many as three mass graves on the Victorville outskirts.
Sheriff’s investigators with shovels excavated two grave sites Wednesday morning where they suspect the skeletal remains of multiple people were buried at each site.
Two workers could be seen digging into an approximately 10-foot-by-10-foot area surrounded by sage and chapparal while additional personnel stood nearby sifting through dirt for bones and other evidence. Another grave was found about six feet away.
“This is an active and ongoing investigation,” San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said. “It appears the remains have been there for an extended period of time.”
Sheriff John McMahon talked to investigators and reporters at the scene, saying there may be as many as three grave sites because they found a third area with disturbed soil.
“We’re working to confirm the two different grave sites and a possible third,” he said.
An offroader motorcyclist on Monday found the first set of remains and reported it to the Sheriff’s Department, officials said in a written statement.
Deputies returned on Tuesday and made the grim discovery of the remains of more than one person between Quarry Road and the 15 Freeway, north of Stoddard Wells Road. Sheriff’s officials have not confirmed how many people had been buried there, but coroner’s investigators confirmed the remains were human.
A forensic anthropologist has been examining the remains to determine the age and gender of the remains.
The area sits west of the 15 Freeway and consists of small rolling hills. There are no homes or businesses nearby.
Anyone with information may call Detective Armando Avila at 909-387-3589 or anonymously at We-tip, 800-78-CRIME or you may leave information on the We-Tip hotline at www.wetip.com.
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Victorville mass grave discovery: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
By Doug Saunders, The Sun
POSTED: 11/13/13, 6:48 AM PST | UPDATED: 6 HRS AGO
San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies investigate an area on Nov. 13, 2013, where multiple grave sites were found west of the 15 Freeway on the outskirts of Victorville. (Photo by John Valenzuela/San Bernardino Sun) VICTORVILLE >> San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said he should have an estimate by this afternoon on the number of people buried in as many as three mass graves on the Victorville outskirts.
Sheriff’s investigators with shovels excavated two grave sites Wednesday morning where they suspect the skeletal remains of multiple people were buried at each site.
Two workers could be seen digging into an approximately 10-foot-by-10-foot area surrounded by sage and chapparal while additional personnel stood nearby sifting through dirt for bones and other evidence. Another grave was found about six feet away.
“This is an active and ongoing investigation,” San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said. “It appears the remains have been there for an extended period of time.”
Sheriff John McMahon talked to investigators and reporters at the scene, saying there may be as many as three grave sites because they found a third area with disturbed soil.
“We’re working to confirm the two different grave sites and a possible third,” he said.
An offroader motorcyclist on Monday found the first set of remains and reported it to the Sheriff’s Department, officials said in a written statement.
Deputies returned on Tuesday and made the grim discovery of the remains of more than one person between Quarry Road and the 15 Freeway, north of Stoddard Wells Road. Sheriff’s officials have not confirmed how many people had been buried there, but coroner’s investigators confirmed the remains were human.
A forensic anthropologist has been examining the remains to determine the age and gender of the remains.
The area sits west of the 15 Freeway and consists of small rolling hills. There are no homes or businesses nearby.
Anyone with information may call Detective Armando Avila at 909-387-3589 or anonymously at We-tip, 800-78-CRIME or you may leave information on the We-Tip hotline at www.wetip.com.
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CaliKid Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:28 pm
Wow that's some crazy stuff. I wonder who did this and why..
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Re: Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
Drunky McThuggerton Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:14 pm
That's crazy, bet its a seriel killer
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Re: Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
TumbleWeed Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:28 am
It's where bodies get dumped and buried.90951 wrote:That's crazy, bet its a seriel killer
http://www.sbsun.com/general-news/20131113/high-desert-known-for-body-dumping
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Drunky McThuggerton Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:30 am
Not I'm the exact same place tho. A mass grave is different. Has to be a serial killer
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Re: Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
TumbleWeed Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:59 pm
http://www.sbsun.com/general-news/20131115/remains-found-near-victorville-idd-as-missing-mcstay-family
Remains found near Victorville ID’d as missing McStay family
By Doug Saunders, The Sun
and Melissa Pinion-Whitt, The Sun
POSTED: 11/15/13, 9:00 AM PST | UPDATED: 58 SECS AGO
The high-profile search for the missing McStay family of San Diego County came to an end as two of the four skeletal remains found just north of Victorville this week have been identified as belonging to them, sheriff’s officials confirmed today.
Joseph McStay, 40, his wife, Summer, 43, and their two sons, Gianni, 4 and Joseph, 3, vanished from their Fallbrook home about 45 miles north of San Diego in February 2010. San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said the remains of two people belonged to Joseph McStay and his wife, and the additional remains are suspected to belong to their children.
McMahon said the manner of death is suspected to be homicide.
Joseph McStay’s brother, Michael, cried during a press conference at Sheriff’s Department headquarters in San Bernardino.
“This was not the outcome we were looking for but it gives us courage to know they’re together and they’re in a better place,” he said.
San Bernardino County Deputy Coroner’s Investigator Bob Hunter said he contacted the Department of Justice about missing four-person families after the remains were discovered Monday.
Officials advised Hunter to obtain dental records for the McStay family.
Hunter said the records matched the family, whose remains had been buried in two graves that were one to two feet deep.
The Sheriff’s Department received a call Monday from an off-road motorcyclist after some of the remains were unearthed, possibly by wildlife, sheriff’s officials said.
“There were obvious signs of wildlife activity in the close proximity of the graves,” sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said.
Once the discovery was confirmed to be human remains, sheriff’s homicide investigators found what they believed to be two shallow graves. A 30-hour excavation of the site began.
Sheriff’s officials close to the investigation confirmed at least one of the remains taken out of one of the grave sites had been bound with an electric cord.
McMahon, who was repeatedly questioned during the press conference about whether the killings were related to a drug cartel, said the investigation hasn’t revealed a connection yet.
“We’ll go where the investigation leads,” he said. “There is no indication of it now.”
San Diego County sheriff’s detectives and FBI agents from the San Diego office suspected the family had crossed the border into Mexico at the time of their disappearance and left of their own free will.
On Wednesday, workers excavated an approximately 10-foot-by-10-foot area in High Desert scrubland sifting through dirt for bones and other evidence.
The area sits west of the 15 Freeway and consists of small rolling hills with no homes or businesses nearby.
More to come.
Remains found near Victorville ID’d as missing McStay family
By Doug Saunders, The Sun
and Melissa Pinion-Whitt, The Sun
POSTED: 11/15/13, 9:00 AM PST | UPDATED: 58 SECS AGO
The high-profile search for the missing McStay family of San Diego County came to an end as two of the four skeletal remains found just north of Victorville this week have been identified as belonging to them, sheriff’s officials confirmed today.
Joseph McStay, 40, his wife, Summer, 43, and their two sons, Gianni, 4 and Joseph, 3, vanished from their Fallbrook home about 45 miles north of San Diego in February 2010. San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said the remains of two people belonged to Joseph McStay and his wife, and the additional remains are suspected to belong to their children.
McMahon said the manner of death is suspected to be homicide.
Joseph McStay’s brother, Michael, cried during a press conference at Sheriff’s Department headquarters in San Bernardino.
“This was not the outcome we were looking for but it gives us courage to know they’re together and they’re in a better place,” he said.
San Bernardino County Deputy Coroner’s Investigator Bob Hunter said he contacted the Department of Justice about missing four-person families after the remains were discovered Monday.
Officials advised Hunter to obtain dental records for the McStay family.
Hunter said the records matched the family, whose remains had been buried in two graves that were one to two feet deep.
The Sheriff’s Department received a call Monday from an off-road motorcyclist after some of the remains were unearthed, possibly by wildlife, sheriff’s officials said.
“There were obvious signs of wildlife activity in the close proximity of the graves,” sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said.
Once the discovery was confirmed to be human remains, sheriff’s homicide investigators found what they believed to be two shallow graves. A 30-hour excavation of the site began.
Sheriff’s officials close to the investigation confirmed at least one of the remains taken out of one of the grave sites had been bound with an electric cord.
McMahon, who was repeatedly questioned during the press conference about whether the killings were related to a drug cartel, said the investigation hasn’t revealed a connection yet.
“We’ll go where the investigation leads,” he said. “There is no indication of it now.”
San Diego County sheriff’s detectives and FBI agents from the San Diego office suspected the family had crossed the border into Mexico at the time of their disappearance and left of their own free will.
On Wednesday, workers excavated an approximately 10-foot-by-10-foot area in High Desert scrubland sifting through dirt for bones and other evidence.
The area sits west of the 15 Freeway and consists of small rolling hills with no homes or businesses nearby.
More to come.
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Re: Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
TumbleWeed Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:00 pm
Crazy.......
I found this comment interesting.
"crazybodie01
A very professional hit, bodies were concealed for an extended period of time. The bodies were also subjected to extreme weather conditions and other natural elements allowing vital evidence to be destroyed. Their vehicle was found near the Mexico border and at this time no suspect's information is available.
It is my understanding that Mr. McStay dealt with large water fountains, I am willing to bet some of the water fountains or supplies to make them came directly from Mexico. The McStay's left at least 100K in bank accounts. Either Mr or Mrs obviously upset and or crossed somebody or some organization who has a history in violent acts. To kill the entire family sends a very strong message."
I found this comment interesting.
"crazybodie01
A very professional hit, bodies were concealed for an extended period of time. The bodies were also subjected to extreme weather conditions and other natural elements allowing vital evidence to be destroyed. Their vehicle was found near the Mexico border and at this time no suspect's information is available.
It is my understanding that Mr. McStay dealt with large water fountains, I am willing to bet some of the water fountains or supplies to make them came directly from Mexico. The McStay's left at least 100K in bank accounts. Either Mr or Mrs obviously upset and or crossed somebody or some organization who has a history in violent acts. To kill the entire family sends a very strong message."
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Re: Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
Drunky McThuggerton Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:06 pm
Since when is 4 bodies a "mass" grave? The press is getting a Lil loose with that word
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Re: Mass grave discovered in Victorville: Sheriff to provide body count estimate
TumbleWeed Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:07 pm
Don't know, but it almost sounds like a cartel hit or something. The family had money and did business over the border.
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EASTSIDER1904 Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:43 pm
damn they killed the kids too
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