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That shits crazy guess them niggaz gone have to bust a mission 4 they rillos and brews now lol.

dstrm300 wrote:Damn r u serious? U kno what they might have got caught up in the injunction process, that store was a part of them niggas hood fa real.

Were there any signs of any CCC's n the area still?

That was their store indeed. And this is news to me it was there literally about 3wks ago which is the last time I rolled thru the area...trip out. CCC ain't in the Zoo anymore but they are in VG (Village Green) which is on Chestnut across the street on the SB side. And alot of them are in Rialto, NOrth SB, and East SB. I saw quarter pounds a week ago and I ran into Baby Long a few weeks ago too. That injunction shit is crazy it doesn't work at all they need to just implement some childrens programs and flood it with money from the employees down to the equipment...why they think injunctions works beats the shit out of me.

Cevek wrote:i just noticed some cholos towards the end of the video? NSC's maybe?

THe one dude throwing up the C and then the Dub I don't know if its for Colton and then the west coast symbol or if he is a hispanic from CCC. Because you can take that more than one way. But dude in the black i known since we was kids and he is from Mt Vernon and also had a click called SSB or State Street Boys and they did NOT get along with NSC. State street is right there off chestnut across from the Zoo. Also at one time back in the 80's to mid 90's there were some brothers about 5 of them ...huge family all from 7th street Verdugo. They were mad cool with CCC's and also some dudes from the zoo have children with some offspring of CSL. At one point Joey (I forgot his hood name) but he is mexican. He claimed the Zoo all of his years until he hit around 18 at which time the Sureno's made him claim 7th or nothing. So he had to go the sureno way. But he was a crip to the fullest and i personally seen what he's made of a real rider. And CCC didn't trip because all his homies who I also went to school with were cool with it. And to this day you'll see some CSL's in 40 glocc vids

Let me add that 40 glocc has always been cool with mexicans. He did a album called 40 glocc and the Surenos. There is certain stuff I def can't speak on but he is one cat that doesn't have to worry about ese's from SB or Colton. If you ever run into him he's really a cool dude...but if you on some bullshit them colton niggaz is just vicious like any of the other hoods in the E. But 40 is pretty much the only black IE banger you gon see in a vid that have reputable IE ese's being down with him...for all else to see mind you...no fear of retribution.

LOL....wow. I was out there just a an hour ago. Decided to drive up Rancho just to make sure. SB Liquor is still there. The new mini shopping center they're building is right before it and blocks it out of sight if you're looking north on Rancho. Still, I saw the SB Liquor sign today, and I didn't the first time. I don't know how I missed it. My bad yall.

niners wrote:

Cevek wrote:i just noticed some cholos towards the end of the video? NSC's maybe?

THe one dude throwing up the C and then the Dub I don't know if its for Colton and then the west coast symbol or if he is a hispanic from CCC. Because you can take that more than one way. But dude in the black i known since we was kids and he is from Mt Vernon and also had a click called SSB or State Street Boys and they did NOT get along with NSC. State street is right there off chestnut across from the Zoo. Also at one time back in the 80's to mid 90's there were some brothers about 5 of them ...huge family all from 7th street Verdugo. They were mad cool with CCC's and also some dudes from the zoo have children with some offspring of CSL. At one point Joey (I forgot his hood name) but he is mexican. He claimed the Zoo all of his years until he hit around 18 at which time the Sureno's made him claim 7th or nothing. So he had to go the sureno way. But he was a crip to the fullest and i personally seen what he's made of a real rider. And CCC didn't trip because all his homies who I also went to school with were cool with it. And to this day you'll see some CSL's in 40 glocc vids

thanks for explaining that g.

Cevek wrote:

niners wrote:

Cevek wrote:i just noticed some cholos towards the end of the video? NSC's maybe?

THe one dude throwing up the C and then the Dub I don't know if its for Colton and then the west coast symbol or if he is a hispanic from CCC. Because you can take that more than one way. But dude in the black i known since we was kids and he is from Mt Vernon and also had a click called SSB or State Street Boys and they did NOT get along with NSC. State street is right there off chestnut across from the Zoo. Also at one time back in the 80's to mid 90's there were some brothers about 5 of them ...huge family all from 7th street Verdugo. They were mad cool with CCC's and also some dudes from the zoo have children with some offspring of CSL. At one point Joey (I forgot his hood name) but he is mexican. He claimed the Zoo all of his years until he hit around 18 at which time the Sureno's made him claim 7th or nothing. So he had to go the sureno way. But he was a crip to the fullest and i personally seen what he's made of a real rider. And CCC didn't trip because all his homies who I also went to school with were cool with it. And to this day you'll see some CSL's in 40 glocc vids

thanks for explaining that g.

well let me clear it up the family from CSL's lived in the Zoo for a long period of time

Didn't them dudes from CSL, the sureno rappers payaso or his brothers own that SB liquor store? or at least have something to do with that store. I remember them advertising for it years ago

No it was owned by a Palestinian. His nephews were all 'arabic sureno' one was from Lopas or something like that out of the 805 varrio lompoc is what its called. The other surreno was from an LA set but I forget which. To keep them out of trouble and get them to accept their Islamic ways of life to the fullest he put them in the store. Payaso was selling teen angel and some other product (shirts, cd's) out of that store heavy. So thats probably why he was doing that. I remember all the sureno's on any friday or wknd night in that store buying all that stuff. Payaso was my ninja I taught him how to play dice when he was 15 at Ike. lol Good times

niners wrote:No it was owned by a Palestinian. His nephews were all 'arabic sureno' one was from Lopas or something like that out of the 805 varrio lompoc is what its called. The other surreno was from an LA set but I forget which. To keep them out of trouble and get them to accept their Islamic ways of life to the fullest he put them in the store. Payaso was selling teen angel and some other product (shirts, cd's) out of that store heavy. So thats probably why he was doing that. I remember all the sureno's on any friday or wknd night in that store buying all that stuff. Payaso was my ninja I taught him how to play dice when he was 15 at Ike. lol Good times

"Arabic Sureno?" i never seen or heard of any. I seen asian try to look like ese's before. So when an Arab/Asian Sureno hits the pen do they get the respect from Mexican surenos?

Cevek wrote:

niners wrote:No it was owned by a Palestinian. His nephews were all 'arabic sureno' one was from Lopas or something like that out of the 805 varrio lompoc is what its called. The other surreno was from an LA set but I forget which. To keep them out of trouble and get them to accept their Islamic ways of life to the fullest he put them in the store. Payaso was selling teen angel and some other product (shirts, cd's) out of that store heavy. So thats probably why he was doing that. I remember all the sureno's on any friday or wknd night in that store buying all that stuff. Payaso was my ninja I taught him how to play dice when he was 15 at Ike. lol Good times

"Arabic Sureno?" i never seen or heard of any. I seen asian try to look like ese's before. So when an Arab/Asian Sureno hits the pen do they get the respect from Mexican surenos?

There are PLENTY of non-Hispanic Sureno's. In the penitentiary and in the streets. I've met white, asian, middle eastern, and even black dudes from Sureno hoods. It's not very common, but they are definitely out there. Most of the time, they grew up in the neighborhood, and while they may look different, they still carry themselves the same as any traditional sureno would.

In the system (the CA prisions), there is no such rule that one has to be Hispanic to be a Sureno.

I was under the impression that no more non hispanics especially Blacks could be sureno? That it was frowned upon by other hispanics...not the case actually?

niners wrote:I was under the impression that no more non hispanics especially Blacks could be sureno? That it was frowned upon by other hispanics...not the case actually?

It's a common misconception. In the the streets, it's definitively less accepted, and I'm sure it's frowned upon on an individual level in the prisions, but overall, in the penitentiary it's a different story. The Eme doesn't necessarily care if you're black, white, yellow, purple or pink. I base this on personal, first hand perspective, and from directly dealing with individuals who are/were involved with Hispanic prison politics in California.

Just to give an example; the Armenian Power 13 gang pays taxes to the Eme and click up with the south siders in prision. They're Surenos despite the fact that they're generally not Mexican or Hispanic in membership but rather, Armenian.

It was more common in the past to have black surenos. now days its more rare because of the racial tension and prison politics. but theirs still some out there. I know of a few active black surenos in Fontana. I don't know if new rules were passed by the higher ups about not letting in new blacks, but I wouldn't be surprised if their was. Rules are always broken no matter what though.

Well last night my girl went with her aunt to her cousins birthday party, who lives around 9th and arrowhead. A fight broke out with some kid from IE but we don't know which hood hes from. They just heard him say that some guys were outside ready to take him out and they heard something about 18th street from LA. Then all a sudden they seen this kid getting jumped by those guys outside and then like 5 other people came running to help. I just didn't expect 18street to be involved but were going to ask where that kid was from. Maybe ESV or WS.

damn thats crazy something is always happening around there. I have never heard of 18th st in that area but again we all know alot of LA is over there.

the five who came to help, were they helping to jump the kid or helping him out?

The ones coming to help were to help the kid getting jumped. Basically, it was a party that he showed up to because his sister is my girl's cousins babys mom. Anyway, whoever this dudes are, it sounds like they're really on his ass because they actually followed him to the house. I never heard of 18st being there either, I remember seeing 18st hit ups around Delmann Heights but that's about it. But who knows. I just know my girl and her aunt left because they thought somebody might start shooting. Luckly nobody did.

There's a hood called 18st. Maze that is right down the street from DH too so I wonder if it was they're grafitti or was it clearly the sureno 18? Thats wierd either way because DH is territorial its almost suicide to go hit up in their hood...but then again taggers do it all the time so nevermind lol

I'm convinced it was 18st from LA. Nyte had said it was probably 18st maze, I went and took some pictures and it said something like WS 18ST. CXP. I forget, I know I posted it somewhere.

niners wrote:There's a hood called 18st. Maze that is right down the street from DH too so I wonder if it was they're grafitti or was it clearly the sureno 18? Thats wierd either way because DH is territorial its almost suicide to go hit up in their hood...but then again taggers do it all the time so nevermind lol

The tags I saw of "18st" where located at the end of Porter and at the freeway wall. Very sloppy hit up on the sidewalk that simply read "WS XV3". The other was done on an abandoned house on 28th & California on a garage door. Someone came and slashed it out and then the house was remolded . Again, it was sloppy and looked exactly the same. No mention of a specific gang or click, which led me to believe that it was done by the same person, probably a youngster on a 3 am tagging mission. If one of the active yg's from DH catches someone tagging something, 9 times out of 10 it's a wrap for that person.

cray wrote:I'm convinced it was 18st from LA. Nyte had said it was probably 18st maze, I went and took some pictures and it said something like WS 18ST. CXP. I forget, I know I posted it somewhere.

Yeah Cray, I saw it later on for myself. This was a few years ago.

the sloppy part makes me think it was someone who knew they'd better hurry and keep pushing for one and for two it was most likely a group home kid lol their is quite a few group homes in the area.

The kid getting beat up the other day is from CSL.