Women's Rights/Issues

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I have yet to come across much, if anything in regards to women's rights. I am sure there are many MRAs on here that will fill this thread with hate and ignorance. However, these are real issues that deserve a real discussion. Here is a quick video just to educate and enjoy.

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Forum Gawd Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:38 am

I was about to write something good, but I am not on my computer so I'm going to just post this quick link about an hour ex feminist.

Personally I don't have no problem with equal rights for women, bit there is a difference between wanting rights equal to men and just trying to Fuck men over. Domestic violence calls are a joke now. I've honestly witnessed several cases where a girl caught there bf cheating, or something, and the girl assaults the bf, he fights back(obviously overpoqers her) and then only the guy gets arrested.

Child custody negotiations are a joke, and don't get me started on girls who get drunk let a guy Fuck, and later yell rape...

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Guest Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:15 am

I understand and agree that is an issue. However, to compare the two on a global scale is impossible. Violence against women has been on the rise since 1993. Feminicide is a real problem woman around have to deal with everyday of their lives. The issues you addressed, although valid, are insignificant in comparison.

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Forum Gawd Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:12 pm

jennierock wrote:I understand and agree that is an issue. However, to compare the two on a global scale is impossible. Violence against women has been on the rise since 1993. Feminicide is a real problem woman around have to deal with everyday of their lives. The issues you addressed, although valid, are insignificant in comparison.

I'm going to post a pic of my chest. My girl attacked me just because I had a girl on my fb page. I've had several girls like this lol. Girls start most of the fights dude. Lol.... I did a year in prison over a bogus domestic violence call..

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I am sorry for your luck. It sounds like you deal with immature girls and need to start attracting mature women. When comparing the numbers, the scale flips over to the women.

In Juarez Mexico, residents will tell you that since NAFTA was enacted in 1964, 10,000 women have disappeared, been murdered, tortured, raped and dismembered. Many are still missing. Officials will say that the death rate for women is not higher there compared to any where else in the world.

Today in the U.K. there are still 22,000 FGM (female genital mutilation) cases a year. There are two types. The first is the most common. They cut off the clitoris. Ensuring the girl will never experience sexual satisfaction. The second is worse. In addition to removing the clitoris, the sew the vagina shut to ensure she will never be able to have sex. There are even reported cases here in America.

I do believe the larger scale and the global feminicide issue far out weighs issues of immature girls abusing the criminal justice system.

Again, I am sorry that you are one of the few (in comparison) to be put through a situation like that.

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A comprehensive study recently released by the Center for Disease Control has found that nearly 1 in 5 women in America report that they were raped. Not just during their time in college, which is a statistic we're all depressingly familiar with — the CDC found that 19.3 percent of women in the United States have been raped at some point in their life.

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Guest Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:56 pm

Dear Men: Having a Daughter Does Not Make You a Girl Expert

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Hey dads, when you have a daughter I gather it feels like a front seat to The Truth about all little girls, a gift to help undo your previously unconsidered assumptions about them. It is hard, but you must resist the urge to take this new knowledge and generalize even more.
For instance, in a HuffPo piece by Brett Spears called "10 Things No One Ever Taught Me About Having a Daughter," the author itemizes his newly discovered insights into daughters, and marvels at the newfound knowledge and love and joy he experiences now that he knows what he knows.
On the one hand, this is great. More dads than ever are really getting into being dads these days, and that is a thing worth celebrating, and better late than never, right? On the other hand why must men have a daughter to suddenly get that girls are people, or that they face a daily onslaught of cultural prescriptives that reinforce super retro roles?
So, using some of what he learned, if you want to avoid generalizing what daughters are like, how about try these things:
Get to know women!
I know there's a lot of fun new feelings to have when daughters show up, but you could thwart much of the surprise by getting to know women in your life, and talking to them about what it was like to be a girl, and then maybe finding out that they like boys at a young age wouldn't be so shocking.
For instance, Spears writes:

1. No one ever told me how soon she might pay attention to boys.  Like many of us, I pretty much bought into the social anthropology that sees boys as the romantic aggressors and girls as, at best, generously tolerant of their pursuits. This all changed one night at the gym, when my daughter Mary Grace tugged at my arm and earnestly pronounced, "Daddy, do you see that boy over there? I like that boy!"

I mean, yeah dude, girls who like boys tend to like them. Immediately. It's not until later that everyone mysteriously gets cooties. I am not saying Spears is a bad guy for not noticing this until now — I'm glad he finally noticed! I just wish it didn't take a guy having a daughter to realize that girls are not cryogenically frozen until marriage, and have the same curiosity about themselves, their bodies, and others, just as boys do, and well before puberty. Girls are culturally conditioned to wait passively for boys to approach, but it's not as if they are born automatically deferential — that takes a lifetime.
Spears says:

No one ever told me that all of my previous attempts to understand the female anatomy would be completely revolutionized by a single nasty diaper. The resultant force of uncovering a tiny baby vagina that is smeared with poop is staggering. I have literally stood over my daughter with a baby wipe in one hand and a magnifying glass in the other, surgically removing flecks of feces from her hoo-hoo.

A book might've cleared this up, too.
And this:

2. No one ever told me how much more I could fall in love with my wife.Having a mini-version of Mary in the house cannot help but re-contextualize who she is to me. Many of the idiosyncrasies and dispositions that have tempted me to frustration over the years were suddenly recast in the person of our daughter, allowing me to see with new perspective and compassion some of her ways of being that seemed most alien to mine. To give an example: I never could understand the seemingly crushing disappointment that my wife experiences when plans fail. Even the most mundane engagements, extemporaneously altered, can greatly affect her mood. I once saw her have a complete breakdown in a cafeteria line as she watched the last carvings of "her" prime rib sandwich get distributed to the guest in front of her. Frighteningly, Mary Grace is exactly like this.

More love is good; accepting people is stellar. But I have to point out that this has nothing to do with gender. He is conflating the idea that because he had a daughter who had the same qualities as his lady-wife, he can now judge those traits more charitably. But a son could be just as impatient, and it could be just an endearing and useful to seeing how personality can be mysterious and unchangeable and shared between parent and child regardless of gender and yet still be instructive. And hopefully, he'd be just as moved by that.
Recognize that cultural influences on women are just that — influences, not destiny.
Pink, weddings, tea parties, yadda yadda. This is all cultural, not innate. Liking them is not proof of anything other than the fact that girls are fed this stuff, and some of it is fun (and the smart boys always realize this).
Spears says:

7. No one ever told me the extraordinary importance of the color pink.  Last Christmas, M.G. asked Santa for a "girl puppy." When Claus asked her what color she wanted, she unflinchingly said, "pink!" I have seen her moved to tears upon hearing the report that her pink plate was in the dishwasher and unavailable for use at dinner. A radiant, white-robed Jesus could manifest in her room and present her with a blue, winged unicorn and I honestly believe it would go something like this: "Um, 'hank you Jesus for my flying horse, but you forgot one 'hing — PINK! Now, about that white robe..."

Look, but pink doesn't have to be that important. You can't really think girls are just born loving it? Also: You could investigate this a little bit more, rather than just accept it as a condition. How much did they dress their daughter in pink, buy her pink things? How much does the stuff she watches push pink? Or the friends she has? Not that it's bad to like pink. But it's notinevitable. And definitely sort it out. And just because his daughter is into it to this degree for whatever reason, doesn't mean all daughters are. Some of them certainly are. Also, there are boys who are into pink too. The more you observe children without projecting behavior on them based on gender, the more you see that it's some about preference, but a lot about whatever is pushed on them.
And this:

8. No one ever told me... well, maybe my wife had told me this, but I never really believed it: Lots of girls really do start thinking about planning their weddings from the time they are toddlers.  Personally, I blame Disney. Every piece of white linen in our home is fair game for a pretend wedding rehearsal. She acts it out in detail. At first it was supremely cute because she wanted to marry me, but recently, a preschool compatriot has overtaken my place as groom-to-be. She says it is because he's "silly and handsome..."

Ugh. I don't know any toddler girls planning weddings. Even sorta. Again, this is something wildly reinforced by parents, grandparents, teachers, culture, TV, everything. What he is really talking about is culture particular to his home and environment, but instead he treats it as inevitable/generalized. Side note: Boys proclaim their love and affection for little girls just as much at this age I've noticed, they just aren't culturally scripted to do so through wedding ceremonies, and if they were, they'd be talking it up too.
And:

10. No one ever told me how much I would genuinely enjoy manicures, tea parties, midday wardrobe explorations, impromptu waltzes, pastel tackle boxes or Fancy Nancy.

Guess what, these are not innately girl things either! These are things your daughter likes because she is growing up in America, in your house, in your community, and sees this stuff and is given this stuff. Glad you like them too, but if you wanted, you could interchange all the pink, and tea parties (not that these things are even bad!) with science kits and Lego sets and go from there, and this could just as easily an entry point exclaiming: Guess what! Some girls love science!
I'm not saying it's right or wrong to like either. I'm saying don't conflate unchecked social programming with innate nature, and then call it a revelation.
Check your own bias and assumptions about gender roles and your culturally scripted role as a father.
Part of the surprise at what little girls are "really like" often comes alongside seeing men and women as vastly different to begin with, at odds, while also not paying much attention to those differences until it's literally required. Along with that also comes this idea that any relationship between a man and his daughter is automatically a kind of proxy for future hetero love.
Spears writes:

9. No one ever told me how irrationally crushed I would be the first time my little girl wanted to marry the silly, handsome boy from preschool instead of me.

Yeah, ok, look. It's sweet when little girls want to marry daddy, and bittersweet when they grow up and move away, but there is something weirdly unexamined about this statement in particular and the larger notion in general. The idea of a father being a daughter's first proxy for romance has never made sense to me. I agree a father-daughter relationship is critically important and can inform her sense of respect and relating to the opposite sex, but I think it should be clear that it's a totally different role than future husband stand-in, just as much as it is important to distinguish being a parent from being a friend to your kid. It's also weird to be jealous of your toddler daughter's first crush. Why do so many dudes feel this way? And how come there is no mother-son equivalent in the culture that wouldn't be mocked relentlessly? If dads should "date their daughters" how come no one ever tells mothers to "date their sons?"
And finally, it shouldn't take having a daughter to want to be a feminist.

Says Spears:

4. No one ever told me that having a daughter would automatically turn me into a feminist.

He doesn't add anything below this item, as if its just self-explanatory, but it isn't. I'm glad he is embracing the term, but I don't get any sense of what it means to him, or if he's surprised that he is experiencing this desire to embrace the term with a daughter, but ironically, not with a wife, and why that may be. To put it to use, I would rather see this clearly well-intentioned, invested dad exploring how gender-coded these assumptions are, and draw some bigger links about the future his daughter will face as a girl in this culture, and what he aims to do about it. But rather than sort this stuff out as cultural imperatives we push on girls, he is viewing them as reinforcing exactly what most people think makes little girls different, and it's just now occurring to him.
What IS valuable about observing children is that you can see how early we push girls toward a feminine ideal and boys toward a masculine one, and how guilty we all are of confirmation bias that whatever girls do directly after we push them toward doing it, is suddenly proof of their innate nature. Same with boys.
So it's great to try to understand our children. But if we want to understand women better, or men, it's way more helpful to strip away the expectations and pressure we put on them to "do gender," and go from there. And ideally, to do this before having any children at all.

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Guest Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:44 pm

FYI: 'Blood Hounds' Are Dudes Who Really, Really Love Period Sex

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[size=30]Have you ever been with a dude whose attitude to period sex was not merely "why not?" but active enthusiasm? Well, they're out there, and they are more than happy to pick Aunt Flow up at the airport.[/size]
[size=30]This comes from New York's Maureen O'Connor and her thorough examination ofthe subject of period sex. We're not talking about the kind of period sex where you're on the rag but you're horny so you put down a towel and have at it. No, we're talking about the gents she's dubbed "blood hounds," who are connoisseurs of the deed done during that time of the month.[/size]
[size=30]Even among the men who love period sex, there's a split. Some are really keen on the ancillary benefits, like the horniness and free lube: "The ability to trigger cascading orgasmic freak-outs, he said, was incentive enough to perform cunnilingus on vaginas that tasted 'like very rare steak' and postcoital imagery he likened to 'human carnage.'"[/size]
[size=30]But then there are the true enthusiasts, who're all about the blood, the smell, the whole rigamarole. Some key lines:[/size]

"The story involved period blood all over the musician's face and the menstrual version of a shit-eating grin."
"'He said it was sweet, like actually sugary-sweet,' she continued. 'He also said every girl tasted different. Oh God, he's done period-sex taste tests. Oh God. Oh God.'"
" To her surprise, David was into it from day one, proclaiming the situation 'hot' even as he emerged from sex smeared from waist to thigh in menstrual blood. 'He said 'the musk' turned him on.'"
"He ate me out A LOT. No tampon. I was like, 'Why can't I just keep a small tampon in?' And he goes, get this, 'The string grosses me out.'"
"Some reasons are physical and hormonal; others practical; and many more are tied to erotic associations and pride in reveling in the uncensored female body. In men, such pride is a modern sort of machismo, one defined by hardcore connoisseurship — much like a chest-thumping dude-foodie who develops a taste for offal."
"The worst was when he'd text, 'We haven't had strawberries-and-cream sex in a while.'"

[size=30]I'd say it's like any other sex-related thing: Enthusiasm is great, nagging is not. Nobody likes a period-sex pest.[/size]

Forum Gawd Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:53 pm

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Kind of weird, but to each their own I guess.

Guest Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:39 pm

[size=31]Hope Solo Shouldn't Be Playing Professional Sports, Either[/size]

The NFL's handling of the Ray Rice domestic violence case has opened a belated discussion on how professional sports enable crap behavior in their athletes, and the private horror of domestic violence for its victims. But in the flurry of firings and bannings and panel appointings in the NFL, one professional sports league has done nothing to discipline its own high-profile athlete accused of domestic abuse. After all, she has a World Cup to qualify for.

The Washington Post's Cindy Boren rightfully takes the Seattle Reign and US Soccer (and their fans) to task for largely brushing aside domestic violence charged faced by superstar goalie Hope Solo. Earlier this year, Solo was accused of physically attacking her 17-year-old nephew and half sister in their home during a drunken disagreement (the nephew tried to fend her off with a broom). When she was ejected from the home, she hopped a fence and circled around to an unlocked sliding door, re-entering against their wishes. She's pled not guilty to two gross misdemeanor charges.
But she plays on. She played last night. And there are no plans to take her off the field.
Here's Boren with more on why:

Solo, who is also on the Seattle Sounders roster, continues to play as a big year for women's soccer is looming with qualifying this fall for the next summer's World Cup.
"We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at the moment," said Neil Buethe, U.S. Soccer director of communications, told USA Today last month. "At the same time, she has an opportunity to set a significant record that speaks to her hard work and dedication over the years with the National Team. While considering all factors involved, we believe that we should recognize that in the proper way."

"She has an opportunity to set a significant record" is among the least sympathetic excuses for not benching a player facing domestic abuse charges I've ever heard. Right before "Yeah but she was drunk!" or "That kid looked at her weird." Records be damned; Hope Solo screwed up.

As Boren points out, Solo's case highlights the fact that domestic violence isn't always a man head butting a woman and breaking her nose because she refused him sex. Sometimes it's a woman calling her nephew "too fat to be an athlete" and then physically attacking him. Sometimes it's not a professional athlete. Sometimes it's your neighbor. And no matter who it is, it's not a matter that should be minimized or ignored.

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The real issue becomes children looking up to these people and then believing violence is okay or the answer.

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Fact: Over age 22, you're all dried up. Last week's bagels, yesterday's baguette. So says the data on what men really want when they are at home alone under the covers hiding from complex interactions. And you know data doesn't lie, just as you know that analogies comparing your worth to bread products are apt and good.
Don't take it from me. I will let Sheila Eldred at Discovery News tell you the breaded truth:

A new book based on relationship data reveals much about the way people interact and view each other, but one graphic from the book's first chapter is generating all the buzz. Here's how the author describes the salient piece of data regarding how men view women:
"From the time you're 22 you'll be less hot than a 20-year-old, based on this data," Christian Rudder said at a recent talk, according toFiveThirtyEight. "So that's just a thing."

Yes, ha, just a trifling thing, like a teacup or a fact or an incrementally but visibly aging female face and body. That thing is data that Rudder, the president/co-founder of OKCupid, has collected for a new, hotly bid on book called Dataclysm: Who We Are (When We Think No One's Looking). And what can you do with data but present it sheepishly?

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Dataclysm: Who We Are (When We Think No One's Looking)
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THE THING LOOKS LIKE THIS:
A Man's Age vs. the Age of the Women Who Look Best to Him
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A Woman's Age vs the Age of the Men Who Look Best to Her
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Five Thirty Eight says Rudder is doing us a favor. "By assembling users' clicks and keystrokes into one place and spending hours inside Excel," they write, he has "found a way to articulate our humanity."
Sure, or at least, found a way to articulate how would-be daters with access to computers feel when they are alone selecting potential candidates from a richly visual, highly optimistic, self-selected pool.
Question: Who is to say which sets of data reveal what we "are really like"? Why is it that what we do alone when no one is watching is always treated as our "true selves" and what we do with people is not, when we probably spend more time with people being in groups than alone? You could be a productive civil engineer, but once it's revealed you like clown porn, now you are Clown Porn Guy, Real You. I mean, which is more real? Besides, I think when we look at all the pairing off that has ever happened in history, most of it has gone down in person. With people watching.
Most of it has gone down with other people, in living rooms, and in communities, and grocery stores and bars, and at work, talking to people in real life, in three dimensions, with their faces and bodies and qualities and flaws. Because the second you remove attraction alone from the mix, now you're dealing with messiness. Nuance. Cofactors.
That is not a knock against online dating or its attendant data! It's a knock against saying that anything you do when you can pick from a buffet of options that are merely what you're wishing for (and not at all what you can necessarily have or works well) is a totally different experience from what happens when two people have to sit across from each other and deal with each other's feelings about True Detective.
That is to say, to date online is to blue-sky the shit out of your preferences, and humbly scale back from there. What you like enough to message a person online in a carefully controlled environment means something — sure — it is not nothing. But everything depends on the red wheelbarrow of that actual date, at which point your apparent desire for someone a third as old as you will get weird if you are hoping to talk about your feelings about True Detective.
Rudder, to his credit, makes this distinction. From Discovery News:

…Rudder is quick to note that these preferences don't necessarily mean 50-year-old men are actually dating women who can't legally drink.
"This is just measuring people's opinions, not what they actually go out and do," he told NPR. "What you see when you actually look at what people do, you see the realism set in. So these 40-year-old guys … the people they actually have the courage to actually go out and message are a lot older: it's 30, 35-year-old women."

Ah, another truth: Men really want 20-year-olds until reality sets in and they have to settle for Talky McAge-Appropriate. Bummer. Here's a thing, and it's nothing against Rudder directly or his work, which I think does have inherent value. I'm just tired of hearing what men's preferences are. I'm just no longer interested in hearing what men prefer if they're given all the best options. I'm tired of how we talk about it, like, as if it actually matters, or that we'd even all instantly become permanently 20 if we could in the first place. As if their feelings are some high bar we can never quite measure up to and must live with and muddle through somehow.
Can we agree that we all get it? Can we agree that we now all understand that if any one group is totally indulged, praised without merit, fed a visual buffet of bodies daily, that in the end they might become, I dunno, how should I put it? Like giant babies about their preferences? That the world no longer needs to know that, if left unattended, men will fuck 20-year-olds 4life if you'll let 'em get up in there, brah?
We get it:
First choice: 20-year-olds.
Second choice: 21-year-old on birthday night.
Third choice: 22-year-olds.
Fourth choice: 23-year-old friend of 22-year-old, if not too mouthy.
Final choice: 24 - 35 if meeting at a dark bar, not too much baggage.
Meanwhile, women, humble old grossies, find men their own age attractive. Men are like:
I want a 20 year old!
I wanna turkey leg!
I wanna go out with the same girl I thought was pretty when I was in high school because peak pretty to me is cryogenically frozen in time! Gimme!
Then compare that to women, who are constantly told they deserve nothing unless they are hairless and deferential:
Yeah I guess I'll mostly date my age. Maybe, just maybe, when I get like, 50 years old, I'll not give a fuck so much that I will finally — at long last — allow myself to imagine a man FOUR YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME as still attractive and it will feel sexually transgressive because it is so against cultural norms. I like conversation. That's me. Conversation.
I don't want to be too cynical though. Here are some tips for how to deal with the fact that you're not hot anymore after you're 22:
Make sure your profile picture is really really good. Work on your facial attitude. Smile. It's your only hope.

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On va remettre tranquillement la machine en marche avec ce qui veulent venir sur IL2 . On se vois sur TS rapidement :chef oui chef: :chef oui chef: :chef oui chef:Bad Handjobs
You know the problem: Your lady is super shitty at handjobs and you just want your knob yanked right like literally any dude from justadude.com (no it isn't a real site are you insane). According to the piece, you're gonna have to get in the trenches and teach your lazy dog a coupla new trix. First things first: Do some outside-the-dick thinking and imagine her as a person with a sight disability, AKA, go Helen Keller.
The "tip":
When she's engaged in that manual labour of love, imagine she's blind and needs to be shown the way home.
"Place your hand on top of hers, finger against finger, to guide her when she's giving you a hand job," says Dr Sadie Allison, author of Tickle His Pickle.
And whatever you do, literally make her keep giving you a handjob until you come because that is the only way she will learn you:
"Be firm and keep going until you're done so that she can replicate the experience next time."
Loose Pussy
Leave the loose pussy fucking to other men. If your woman's glove isn't a tight enough fit, make her get off her ass and do something about it! Just like you would do for her if she told your dick was too small.
The "tip":
If her tunnel of love doesn't feel as snug as you'd like, sign her up for a pilates course.
"Pilates will help strengthen her core muscles, including the pelvic floor," according to Alvin Quek of Pilates International. "Practised regularly, it'll tighten the vaginal canal to develop extra squeeze and stimulation."
Plus, she regularly wears lycra to do it, which has to be a good thing.
Does lycra make your pussy tighter or something? Also, would you just get like, an email about this new pilates course for your pussy? Or like, I don't know is there a Groupon or something? Can I go with a friend?
Uncooperative, Shitty Lay
While everything that has ever been written aimed at women tells them to keep fucking their man no matter what including within eight minutes of having given birth, according to YahooMan's Health Surprise!, if a man isn't getting the enthusiasm he deserves, he should probably stop putting out for a few weeks, and let her think about what she is missing.
Literally:
DON'T PUT OUT  
Chastity seems an odd tactic for sex-life improvement, but stay with us.
"Sometimes women become sexually defensive or shy, because their partner is always there first, asking or angling for some action," according to relationship counsellor Paula Hall. "Stop asking and you may find her sexual appetite gets the better of her, revealing a hunger that brings out her more confident side."
Try backing off for 14 days. If she's still not interested, maybe you should change your deodorant.

In other news, 100% of divorces occur after a partner secretly withholds love or affection from their significant other without saying why they don't want to fuck them anymore.

Lazy Fuck
What is cool about Real Dolls is that they are just like real women except no talkie to dickie. That is what I am reminded of with this piece of advice:
If she's shy, tires easily on top (or she just doesn't fancy you), turn her around to face your feet, keeping your legs together.
"When she's kneeling with her legs around your torso, the wide angle of her knees means her thigh muscles have to work hard," reveals Spurr.

IF SHE DOESN'T FANCY YOU, TURN HER AROUND. Seriously why not just put a paperbag over your own head? Pretending she doesn't know what is under the bag could add an element of surprise for her. Which might make her fuck you more enthusiastically if she can pretend you are your hotter friend who does not have this weird secret teacher thing going on.
Her Orgasm Takes Too Long
When it's a man's turn to come there are literally no shortcuts, just committing to getting in there and getting it done no matter how long it takes. But if orgasm reciprocity is punishment for women's lib, and I think it's pretty obvious it is — you're going to have to do whatever it takes to get her off, you know? Yahoo! Health Man's Solipsistic Boner can help:
"Getting her to the level of orgasm can be a hard slog," admits Spurr. So stage your own industrial revolution and bring some machinery to bed.
Why not just hook her up to a vaccum cleaner. P.S.: So glad he "admitted" it could be a slog. Took guts, Spurr, you dirty sonofagun.
PAYBACK IS A BITCH
The secret — that men should get off real good while women just feel grateful that they were being listened to — was under very tight pussy-like wrap for most of human history, but that pussy is out of the bag, and she's a-meowin': Women now expect to get actual pleasure from sex. Yahoo! Look at My Hot Boner Surprise says try to strangle it back into the bag if you can:
"In the past few decades, women have learnt that orgasms, like voting and equal pay, are their right," says Spurr.
This tide of female emancipation has led to a "princess-and-the-pea syndrome" – her "pea" gets all the attention, while everything else gets sidelined.
"The pea's demands will eclipse those of your penis," warns Spurr. So stand up for your rights, man!
Lololololol women are such clitoral pea fascists.
As Kasey Edwards at Daily Life puts it in a much more forgiving take:
I'm going to give the sexperts the benefit of the doubt and assume they've been quoted out of context and that they don't give advice exclusively to men, nor do they view women as merely sex dolls with a pulse.
I can do no such thing. Men's Incorrigible Dick Weekly should know better.

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Forum Gawd Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:39 am

:hump:Not a big fan of handjobs lol. I'm not in elementary school anymore.

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HxTwo wrote::hump:Not a big fan of handjobs lol. I'm not in elementary school anymore.

Ha!

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I thought this was interesting and wanted to share.

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In news designed to strike fear in complacent husbands everywhere, we learned this week that half of all women have a "Backup Husband" in mind if Mr. Now fizzles out—and sometimes even multiples. Sad part: The likeliest candidate is just the guy who still has feelings for you after all these years. Pardon me for saying so, but if this is how you're doing Backup Husbands, then you are doing Backup Husbands all wrong.
The concept is brilliantly simple, though: You're married, but you're a level-headed, pragmatic gal, so you've got a next-up partner or two in mind should this relationship hit the skids. Who hasn't mapped out a flowchart of alternatives in the event of a natural disaster? Hey, a backup plan is nothing to be left to chance or circumstance.
But puzzlingly, this seems to be the case for the women surveyed (which you correctly suspected comes via Daily Mail), whose answers sound positively lazy:

… the back-up is likely to be an old friend who has always had feelings for the woman in question.
But other candidates are an ex-boyfriend or ex-husband, a colleague - or someone who they have met at the gym.

Weird that your ex-husband would be the go-to after your current husband, who is I guess then your second husband? And since when are guys you meet at the gym good boyfriend material? (Genuinely asking: Have been to a gym once.)
Things take a truly terrifying turn over theMail when your Backup Husband begins to sound like some kind of Sleeper Cell of Second Chances/Emergency Contraception:

The survey of 1,000 women also found Plan B is also likely to be someone whom she has known for around seven years, who will be 'ready and waiting' because of 'unfinished business'. Furthermore, around one in ten women said their Plan B had already confessed his undying love, while one in five said they were confident he would 'drop everything' for her, if she asked him to.

Drop everything! No no not those flowers — it's my best vase!
In other unsurprising news, about half these Sunday drivers already knew the man in question. The other half said he existed B.C. — Before Complacency. But here is around where it gets rock-bottom, Sad Human Condition time:

Around one in four women who have a back-up plan have feelings as strong for him as they do for their other half.

OK, hold the phones—only ONE IN FOUR women have feelings equal to those of the dolt who will be marrying them next? No no no no no. Do not do the thing where the other person loves you more then you love them. That is a recipe for unequal loving.
Here is how to actually choose a Backup Husband.
Actually Choose
If you're going to choose a backup husband, you should actually, you know, CHOOSE A BACKUP HUSBAND. "Choose" is the operative word here: don't let one fall into your lap. You deserve more. Don't pick some dude whose been hangin' around just cuz it's easier. Dark horse candidates should be selected with all the scrutiny and careful consideration you neglected to apply to your current sitch. This means:
Aim High
The dude who has always had feelings for you is probably not your dude for a reason—I am thinking of every old movie/sitcom I've ever seen where the long-suffering wife won't stop exclaiming, "I could've married Harry Finklestein!"
Back when you could've married Harry Finklestein, you didn't. You scanned the horizon for better options, for one reason or another. Why revisit the past? Why romanticize a non-(Finklestein)-entity? Go fresh, go big. Get it all like it's your job to plunder. This is your time to shine, to issue a corrective to all the things you didn't get the last time around.
I think you know what I'm saying here: Go Gosling. But you know, whatever the Gosling is of your actual life and options. GET YOUR GOSLING. Unless you had him already, and now he is gone, in which case, get Gosling's third cousin, twice removed.
Consider Money
As a friend pointed out about this survey, you married for love last time, and look how that turned out? Let's just say that since money is the one of the top sources of conflict in most relationships that we can assume you argued about it in your last relationship. Get whatever amount is enough to not have to fight about it. You know how Michael Pollan advises us to "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants"? Go that route. Only with money.
Have Fun With It
This sounds like "Aim High," but it is not. Aim High is about standards. Have Fun is about dreaming big, or at least going offbeat. I say surprise everyone with your backups and go rogue. Unexpected. If your current type is a staid high-finance guy, next time marry a low-finance woman.
Enjoy the Wait
Since this is not happening anytime soon—

The good news for the nation's men is that one in three women said they 'doubted' anything would ever happen with the man in the background. Around half had a 'never say never' approach, while trouble may lie ahead for one in six who said they were 'seriously considering' rekindling their romance with the man in the shadows.

—you've got some time on your hands. Use it. Appreciate what you've got. Remain optimistic. Tweak the list. Move some people around. Prune wisely. Man in the shadowsthis. Guy in the closet that. Stay cool. Don't go changin'. See ya next summer!
Never Speak of Him/Them
You would think women would keep their list of Shadow Husbands written in invisible ink, stored under a loose plank in the fireproof safe at the far right corner of that turn-of-the-century barn six miles yonder, but no.

...despite the secrecy involved in having a close friend or ex to turn to, around half of the women who took part in the poll said their other half was aware of the 'third party'.

If your dude knows who you're cultivating for a second act, he'll probably drop some hot jokes about every five minutes, eventually working his way into your subconscious, ruining your moment of joy when it's time to run into the arms of your Sleeper Cell Backup Husband™. So zip it up, loose lips. It's called repression. Look into it.
Unless That Was Your Whole Plan, You Old Sly Boots
The upside to talking about Harry Finklestein every time you feel like it is that it keeps Mr. Now on his toes.
Says the Daily Mail:

'This news may cause a few men in relationships to think twice about not taking the rubbish out or choosing a night down the pub in favour of a cosy night in with his partner.

To be clear, your Backup Husband, no matter how much more into your favorite Thai dish he is, will probably not take the rubbish out either. But a girl can dream.

Guest Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:18 pm

How does market anarchism interact with feminist theory?
Left-libertarians take seriously the critiques of feminists who are attempting to dismantle patriarchy, rape culture, sexual violence and intimidation, the gender binary, (inter)sex hegemony, etc. While we certainly prefer to not have the state involved in fixing these errors, that means that it is up to us to challenge the oppressive aspects of our society which punish, marginalize and silence those who suffer under the dominant culture.
The relationship between libertarianism and feminism has not always been so chilly. 19^th-century libertarians — a group which includes classical liberals in the tradition of Jean-Baptiste Say and Herbert Spencer, as well as individualist anarchists in the tradition of Josiah Warren — generally belonged to what Chris Sciabarra has characterized as the “radical” or “dialectical” tradition in libertarianism, in which the political institutions and practices that libertarians condemn as oppressive are seen as part of a larger interlocking system of mutually reinforcing political, economic, and cultural structures.
The withering of this attitude among libertarians is most likely is a result of the alliance free market thinkers made with conservatives during the Progressive Era, interwar years and the Cold War. This alliance transformed conservatives toward market liberalism and libertarian thought toward more conservative personal values, and libertarians still often hold reactionary beliefs regarding feminism.
Mainstream libertarians tend to focus on the thin aspects of oppressionmeaning that their primary concern is equality before the law. Of course it’s very important that women and members of the LGBTQ community have access to civil institutions in an equal manner, but as the Situationists would say, “the personal is the political.” How we treat one another and how our culture works is profound and meaningful.
We sometimes use the language of markets often to describe social interaction, and the market is an incredibly powerful way at satisfying human needs and encouraging cooperation. However, the market only supplies what we demand, so if we have patriarchal values then the market will supply this desire. In this way, the libertarian mission to the world is ultimately cultural; aiming to change what we value and how we treat one another in the absence of direct prohibition or subsidy by state power. In the words of C4SS members Charles Johnson and Roderick Long:
Libertarianism and feminism are, then, two traditions—and, at their best, two radical traditions—with much in common, and much to offer one another. We applaud the efforts of those who have sought to bring them back together; but too often, in our judgment, such efforts have proceeded on the assumption that the libertarian tradition has everything to teach the feminist tradition and nothing to learn from it. Feminists have no reason to embrace a union on such unequal terms. Happily, they need not. If libertarian feminists have resisted some of the central insights of the feminist tradition, it is in large part because they have feared that acknowledging those insights would mean abandoning some of the central insights of the libertarian tradition. But what the example of the 19^th century libertarian feminists should show us—and should help to illuminate (to both libertarians and feminists) in the history of Second Wave feminism—is that the libertarian critique of state power and the feminist critique of patriarchy are complementary, not contradictory. The desire to bring together libertarianism and feminism need not, and should not, involve calling on either movement to surrender its identity for the sake of decorum. This marriage can be saved: as it should be, a marriage of self-confident, strong-willed, compassionate equals.
To full autonomy for all!
(And in many ways, we’re hesitant to be too vocal here in defining these struggles because we are primarily allies. We support these movements as necessary and liberatory. We want people whom feel oppressed to challenge and build new institutions which are more inclusive, and we’ll gladly lend a hand in this process, but we are careful as to make sure that we allow those who have been marginalized to speak most loudly. Consider this a respectful acknowledgment of our privilege as primarily heterosexual, white men, and our intention of not dominating the conversation. It is hard to find a balance here because we also seek to speak out on these matters in solidarity but we acknowledge the importance of the goal of creating a safe space and learning from those with different lived experiences. We strive to strike an appropriate balance in this regard. We hope you feel we are doing an adequate job.)
For more on this topic, please read Carol Moore’s Woman vs. the Nation State: A Manifesto and Charles Johnson’s (PDF) Women and the Invisible Fist

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Forum Gawd Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:39 pm

I be interested in your posts, but cot dang you make the font size so danm big it discourages me from reading it... headslam

Guest Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:32 am

HxTwo wrote:I be interested in your posts, but cot dang you make the font size so danm big it discourages me from reading it...

Large font?
Does it look like a lot or just too big? (That's what she said)

I just copy and paste. It's a pain to fix the size on my phone. Would you rather just have links?

Forum Gawd Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:43 am

jennierock wrote:
HxTwo wrote:I be interested in your posts, but cot dang you make the font size so danm big it discourages me from reading it...
Large font?
Does it look like a lot or just too big? (That's what she said)

I just copy and paste. It's a pain to fix the size on my phone. Would you rather just have links?

Im not trying to be a font size nazi, I'm just saying how it looks lol. Post how you please.

Guest Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:45 am

HxTwo wrote:
jennierock wrote:
HxTwo wrote:I be interested in your posts, but cot dang you make the font size so danm big it discourages me from reading it...
Large font?
Does it look like a lot or just too big? (That's what she said)

I just copy and paste. It's a pain to fix the size on my phone. Would you rather just have links?
Im not trying to be a font size nazi, I'm just saying how it looks lol. Post how you please.

Hahahaha!😄

American Zombie Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:44 am

jennierock wrote:[size=35]How does market anarchism interact with feminist theory?[/size]
Left-libertarians take seriously the critiques of feminists who are attempting to dismantle patriarchy, rape culture, sexual violence and intimidation, the gender binary, (inter)sex hegemony, etc. While we certainly prefer to not have the state involved in fixing these errors, that means that it is up to us to challenge the oppressive aspects of our society which punish, marginalize and silence those who suffer under the dominant culture.
The relationship between libertarianism and feminism has not always been so chilly. 19^th-century libertarians — a group which includes classical liberals in the tradition of Jean-Baptiste Say and Herbert Spencer, as well as individualist anarchists in the tradition of Josiah Warren — generally belonged to what Chris Sciabarra has characterized as the “radical” or “dialectical” tradition in libertarianism, in which the political institutions and practices that libertarians condemn as oppressive are seen as part of a larger interlocking system of mutually reinforcing political, economic, and cultural structures.
The withering of this attitude among libertarians is most likely is a result of the alliance free market thinkers made with conservatives during the Progressive Era, interwar years and the Cold War. This alliance transformed conservatives toward market liberalism and libertarian thought toward more conservative personal values, and libertarians still often hold reactionary beliefs regarding feminism.
Mainstream libertarians tend to focus on the thin aspects of oppressionmeaning that their primary concern is equality before the law. Of course it’s very important that women and members of the LGBTQ community have access to civil institutions in an equal manner, but as the Situationists would say, “the personal is the political.” How we treat one another and how our culture works is profound and meaningful.
We sometimes use the language of markets often to describe social interaction, and the market is an incredibly powerful way at satisfying human needs and encouraging cooperation. However, the market only supplies what we demand, so if we have patriarchal values then the market will supply this desire. In this way, the libertarian mission to the world is ultimately cultural; aiming to change what we value and how we treat one another in the absence of direct prohibition or subsidy by state power. In the words of C4SS members Charles Johnson and Roderick Long:
Libertarianism and feminism are, then, two traditions—and, at their best, two radical traditions—with much in common, and much to offer one another. We applaud the efforts of those who have sought to bring them back together; but too often, in our judgment, such efforts have proceeded on the assumption that the libertarian tradition has everything to teach the feminist tradition and nothing to learn from it. Feminists have no reason to embrace a union on such unequal terms. Happily, they need not. If libertarian feminists have resisted some of the central insights of the feminist tradition, it is in large part because they have feared that acknowledging those insights would mean abandoning some of the central insights of the libertarian tradition. But what the example of the 19^th century libertarian feminists should show us—and should help to illuminate (to both libertarians and feminists) in the history of Second Wave feminism—is that the libertarian critique of state power and the feminist critique of patriarchy are complementary, not contradictory. The desire to bring together libertarianism and feminism need not, and should not, involve calling on either movement to surrender its identity for the sake of decorum. This marriage can be saved: as it should be, a marriage of self-confident, strong-willed, compassionate equals.
To full autonomy for all!
(And in many ways, we’re hesitant to be too vocal here in defining these struggles because we are primarily allies. We support these movements as necessary and liberatory. We want people whom feel oppressed to challenge and build new institutions which are more inclusive, and we’ll gladly lend a hand in this process, but we are careful as to make sure that we allow those who have been marginalized to speak most loudly. Consider this a respectful acknowledgment of our privilege as primarily heterosexual, white men, and our intention of not dominating the conversation. It is hard to find a balance here because we also seek to speak out on these matters in solidarity but we acknowledge the importance of the goal of creating a safe space and learning from those with different lived experiences. We strive to strike an appropriate balance in this regard. We hope you feel we are doing an adequate job.)
For more on this topic, please read Carol Moore’s Woman vs. the Nation State: A Manifesto and Charles Johnson’s (PDF) Women and the Invisible Fist

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So I see you've been doing your homework..

Libertarianism can be capatable with feminism but it depends on the kind of feminism being promoted.

Libertarianism all comes down to the non-aggression principal, so anybody that's political philosophy adopts the NAP, is a libertarian. If they don't, then they arent..Regardless of their political and social goals.

Guest Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:58 am

I have been. I told you I would. Here is another, I haven't read even half yet though.

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So far, it sounds like you.

How does one go about a peaceful revolution? A peaceful civil uprising?

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